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Reply #165 - May 4^th, 2017 at 5:45pm

Grendel wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 12:51am:

I do believe Iran may have mention ending Israel a couple of times, that fact you refuse to acknowledge the muslim world's hatred of the Israel, speak volumes.

Has it? You mean the mistranslated (deliberately!) claim that Iran would wipe Israel from the map? So much for Jewish honesty, hey?

Iran and Arab nations may hate Israel but what they hate is that Israel was established with consulting the Palestinian and Arab majority of Palestine. They want to see Israel changed to a multicultural/multi-religious state from a Jewish state. They don't necessarily want to destroy Israel nor even necessarily kill all the Jews. As I've pointed out, that view was recently refuted by Hamas, yet the Israelis claim that Hamas was lying. Egypt, Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, recognising the existence of that nation and it's right to exist. Lebanon was basically destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel (and Iran). Syria is being destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel. Doesn't look like there are any other Arab states on Israel's border, now does it? Tsk, tsk.

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Like I said being treated as a second-class citizen in someone else's country is no biggie, ask any non-muslim foreign worker who spent time in the ME. A land of vile and despicable people not worthy of any further consideration.

Yet all the Middle-Easterners I have met have been polite, well spoken and accommodating. Funny that, hey, BigOl64? Roll Eyes

Deliberately mistranslated...... Cheesy

You'll believe anything wont you bwian.

Have you actually even read the link I provided, Geoff? Tsk, tsk, I suspect not. You might be surprised who gets the blame... The Iranians. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #166 - May 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. And so, Soren, how many Muslims have come out in support of the murderer of Curtis Cheng again? You have his co-conspirators, and nothing more. Rather makes it hollow that you, in your Islamophobia, lump all Muslims together, hey? Roll Eyes

I don't want Muslim 'to come out in support' of this or that.

I want Muslims to stop other Muslims becoming jihadi terrorists. What's the development on THAT front??

Zero.

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #167 - May 4^th, 2017 at 11:20pm

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. And so, Soren, how many Muslims have come out in support of the murderer of Curtis Cheng again? You have his co-conspirators, and nothing more. Rather makes it hollow that you, in your Islamophobia, lump all Muslims together, hey? Roll Eyes

I don't want Muslim 'to come out in support' of this or that.

I want Muslims to stop other Muslims becoming jihadi terrorists. What's the development on THAT front??

Zero.

And yet all the media reports are of parents/siblings/relatives turning their children into the authorities so they can be stopped leaving Australia, Soren. Perhaps you need to read the media reports a bit more intensively, and of course without your Islamophobic spectacles on? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #168 - May 5^th, 2017 at 3:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Grendel wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 12:51am:

I do believe Iran may have mention ending Israel a couple of times, that fact you refuse to acknowledge the muslim world's hatred of the Israel, speak volumes.

Has it? You mean the mistranslated (deliberately!) claim that Iran would wipe Israel from the map? So much for Jewish honesty, hey?

Iran and Arab nations may hate Israel but what they hate is that Israel was established with consulting the Palestinian and Arab majority of Palestine. They want to see Israel changed to a multicultural/multi-religious state from a Jewish state. They don't necessarily want to destroy Israel nor even necessarily kill all the Jews. As I've pointed out, that view was recently refuted by Hamas, yet the Israelis claim that Hamas was lying. Egypt, Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, recognising the existence of that nation and it's right to exist. Lebanon was basically destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel (and Iran). Syria is being destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel. Doesn't look like there are any other Arab states on Israel's border, now does it? Tsk, tsk.

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Like I said being treated as a second-class citizen in someone else's country is no biggie, ask any non-muslim foreign worker who spent time in the ME. A land of vile and despicable people not worthy of any further consideration.

Yet all the Middle-Easterners I have met have been polite, well spoken and accommodating. Funny that, hey, BigOl64? Roll Eyes

Deliberately mistranslated...... Cheesy

You'll believe anything wont you bwian.

Have you actually even read the link I provided, Geoff? Tsk, tsk, I suspect not. You might be surprised who gets the blame... The Iranians. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Oh dear, you obviously didn't read anything I've posted on it bwian...
BTW Ahmadinejad is Iranian bwian Cheesy

I've read much more than just that link bwian, and that mistranslation claim is bogus... unless you think calling someone; mate, pal or buddy means totally different things.... Cheesy

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #169 - May 5^th, 2017 at 4:02pm

Grendel wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Grendel wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 12:51am:

I do believe Iran may have mention ending Israel a couple of times, that fact you refuse to acknowledge the muslim world's hatred of the Israel, speak volumes.

Has it? You mean the mistranslated (deliberately!) claim that Iran would wipe Israel from the map? So much for Jewish honesty, hey?

Iran and Arab nations may hate Israel but what they hate is that Israel was established with consulting the Palestinian and Arab majority of Palestine. They want to see Israel changed to a multicultural/multi-religious state from a Jewish state. They don't necessarily want to destroy Israel nor even necessarily kill all the Jews. As I've pointed out, that view was recently refuted by Hamas, yet the Israelis claim that Hamas was lying. Egypt, Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, recognising the existence of that nation and it's right to exist. Lebanon was basically destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel (and Iran). Syria is being destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel. Doesn't look like there are any other Arab states on Israel's border, now does it? Tsk, tsk.

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Like I said being treated as a second-class citizen in someone else's country is no biggie, ask any non-muslim foreign worker who spent time in the ME. A land of vile and despicable people not worthy of any further consideration.

Yet all the Middle-Easterners I have met have been polite, well spoken and accommodating. Funny that, hey, BigOl64? Roll Eyes

Deliberately mistranslated...... Cheesy

You'll believe anything wont you bwian.

Have you actually even read the link I provided, Geoff? Tsk, tsk, I suspect not. You might be surprised who gets the blame... The Iranians. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Oh dear, you obviously didn't read anything I've posted on it bwian...
BTW Ahmadinejad is Iranian bwian Cheesy

I've read much more than just that link bwian, and that mistranslation claim is bogus... unless you think calling someone; mate, pal or buddy means totally different things.... Cheesy

Really, Geoff? Really? Please present your proof that it is bogus, Geoff. Or will this be like your claims that I have "knowingly told an untruth", just obfuscation on your part to try and hide that you are in reality just an Islamophobe? Tsk, tsk. Who'd have thunk it? Geoff a liar. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #170 - May 5^th, 2017 at 4:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. And so, Soren, how many Muslims have come out in support of the murderer of Curtis Cheng again? You have his co-conspirators, and nothing more. Rather makes it hollow that you, in your Islamophobia, lump all Muslims together, hey? Roll Eyes

I don't want Muslim 'to come out in support' of this or that.

I want Muslims to stop other Muslims becoming jihadi terrorists. What's the development on THAT front??

Zero.

And yet all the media reports are of parents/siblings/relatives turning their children into the authorities so they can be stopped leaving Australia, Soren. Perhaps you need to read the media reports a bit more intensively, and of course without your Islamophobic spectacles on? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It appears that he may be using contact lenses now.

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #171 - May 5^th, 2017 at 4:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2017 at 11:20pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. And so, Soren, how many Muslims have come out in support of the murderer of Curtis Cheng again? You have his co-conspirators, and nothing more. Rather makes it hollow that you, in your Islamophobia, lump all Muslims together, hey? Roll Eyes

I don't want Muslim 'to come out in support' of this or that.

I want Muslims to stop other Muslims becoming jihadi terrorists. What's the development on THAT front??

Zero.

And yet all the media reports are of parents/siblings/relatives turning their children into the authorities so they can be stopped leaving Australia, Soren. Perhaps you need to read the media reports a bit more intensively, and of course without your Islamophobic spectacles on? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It appears that he may be using contact lenses now.

Reverse focus ones, I assume as it seems so much news passes him by? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Close down all the Mosques.
Reply #172 - May 6^th, 2017 at 8:57am

Brian Ross wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

Grendel wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

Grendel wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 5:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 12:51am:

I do believe Iran may have mention ending Israel a couple of times, that fact you refuse to acknowledge the muslim world's hatred of the Israel, speak volumes.

Has it? You mean the mistranslated (deliberately!) claim that Iran would wipe Israel from the map? So much for Jewish honesty, hey?

Iran and Arab nations may hate Israel but what they hate is that Israel was established with consulting the Palestinian and Arab majority of Palestine. They want to see Israel changed to a multicultural/multi-religious state from a Jewish state. They don't necessarily want to destroy Israel nor even necessarily kill all the Jews. As I've pointed out, that view was recently refuted by Hamas, yet the Israelis claim that Hamas was lying. Egypt, Jordan have signed peace treaties with Israel, recognising the existence of that nation and it's right to exist. Lebanon was basically destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel (and Iran). Syria is being destroyed in a civil war, partly fostered by Israel. Doesn't look like there are any other Arab states on Israel's border, now does it? Tsk, tsk.

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Like I said being treated as a second-class citizen in someone else's country is no biggie, ask any non-muslim foreign worker who spent time in the ME. A land of vile and despicable people not worthy of any further consideration.

Yet all the Middle-Easterners I have met have been polite, well spoken and accommodating. Funny that, hey, BigOl64? Roll Eyes

Deliberately mistranslated...... Cheesy

You'll believe anything wont you bwian.

Have you actually even read the link I provided, Geoff? Tsk, tsk, I suspect not. You might be surprised who gets the blame... The Iranians. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Oh dear, you obviously didn't read anything I've posted on it bwian...
BTW Ahmadinejad is Iranian bwian Cheesy

I've read much more than just that link bwian, and that mistranslation claim is bogus... unless you think calling someone; mate, pal or buddy means totally different things.... Cheesy

Really, Geoff? Really? Please present your proof that it is bogus, Geoff. Or will this be like your claims that I have "knowingly told an untruth", just obfuscation on your part to try and hide that you are in reality just an Islamophobe? Tsk, tsk. Who'd have thunk it? Geoff a liar. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I already did bwian and if you do some proper research you will come to the same conclusion... tsk, tsk, tsk always letting your political bias affect your thinking.... so sad bwian and pathetic. Cheesy

Oh and please lay off the Islamaphobe stupidity.... you can't really make yourself look any stupider... Grin

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Reply #173 - May 6^th, 2017 at 9:04am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 12:19am:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/21/europe/paris-police-shooting-champs-elysees/in...

At a televised news conference Friday, Le Pen called for:

the closure of all "Islamist" mosques in France,

the expulsion of hate preachers and

the reinstatement of French borders.

People on the French security services' watch list for radicalization should also be expelled from France and

have their French citizenship revoked, she said.

We need Le Pen's ideas here in Australia -

not a limp wristed Turnbull or Shorty approach.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Close down all the Mosques. Reply #174 - May 6^th, 2017 at 11:48am I note it doesn't say CLOSE DOWN ALL MOSQUES... and as I've pointed out Human Rights as UN declared, freedom or religion and association etc wouldn't allow you to do such a thing in a western democracy that is a UN member. But ISLAMIST Mosques would be defined differently wouldn't they.
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Reply #175 - May 6^th, 2017 at 11:57am

Grendel wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 11:48am:

I note it doesn't say CLOSE DOWN ALL MOSQUES... and as I've pointed out Human Rights as UN declared, freedom or religion and association etc wouldn't allow you to do such a thing in a western democracy that is a UN member.

But ISLAMIST Mosques would be defined differently wouldn't they.

I'm hoping Le Pen will win but the polls say otherwise.
The rest of the world will follow France if she wins &
close down the terror factories called mosques.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Close down all the Mosques. Reply #176 - May 6^th, 2017 at 12:01pm France is too LW Progressive to be anything else.... it would almost take a miracle for Le Pen or any Right of Centre Conservative Party to win there... but if Macron gets in and stuffs it... the next election may see even more shift to the sensible Right.
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Reply #177 - May 6^th, 2017 at 12:14pm

Grendel wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

France is too LW Progressive to be anything else.... it would almost take a miracle for Le Pen or any Right of Centre Conservative Party to win there... but if Macron gets in and stuffs it... the next election may see even more shift to the sensible Right.

It was also occupied by Nazis within recent memory, but let's not mention the war.

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Reply #178 - May 6^th, 2017 at 12:15pm

Karnal wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Grendel wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

France is too LW Progressive to be anything else.... it would almost take a miracle for Le Pen or any Right of Centre Conservative Party to win there... but if Macron gets in and stuffs it... the next election may see even more shift to the sensible Right.

It was also occupied by Nazis within recent memory, but let's not mention the war.

and France occupied Vietnam after the war. So what?

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Reply #179 - May 6^th, 2017 at 12:18pm

Karnal wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Grendel wrote on May 6^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

France is too LW Progressive to be anything else.... it would almost take a miracle for Le Pen or any Right of Centre Conservative Party to win there... but if Macron gets in and stuffs it... the next election may see even more shift to the sensible Right.

It was also occupied by Nazis within recent memory, but let's not mention the war.

Don't mention the war

I mentioned it once
but I think I got away with it.

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