Q.
What is wrong [is false] with the argument presented by people like Brian Ross.....
"Look! These moslems are protesting against Terrorism!"
see the images in his post, here....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1492395464/73#73my response is here.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1492395464/75#75ARGUMENT;Every person who appears in those images and who is purportedly decrying moslem extremism and moslem terrorism,
is a moslem.
LETS ESTABLISH SOME 'FIRST PRINCIPLES' IN THIS ARGUMENT;
A moslem is a follower of
ISLAM. < --------
dictionary definition.
And what is
ISLAM ?
ARGUMENT;
ISLAM, is Allah.
ISLAM, is the Koran.
ISLAM, is respect for Mohammed.
ISLAM, is the influence of the sunnah of Mohammed.
ISLAM, is ISLAMIC law [texts].ISLAM, is Allah.Allah said that disbelievers are his enemies, and Allah orders his followers to fight and to kill his enemies, until 'religion is only for Allah'.
e.g. "And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..." Koran 2.193
ISLAM, is the Koran.Throughout the Koran Allah orders his followers to fight and to kill his enemies, until 'religion is only for Allah'.
e.g. "O ye who believe!
Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)." Koran 9.123
ISLAM, is respect for Mohammed."...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260
ISLAM, is the influence of the sunnah of Mohammed. Quote:Ishaq: 676 “[Context note: Asma bint Marwan was a writer. She wrote critically of Muhammad, telling her tribe to be wary of him, like this:] ‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling baby and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said, ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’ ”
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1360381351/0#0ISLAM, is ISLAMIC law [texts].ISLAMIC LAW TEXT...."Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said,
"I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06
ISLAMIC LAW TEXT...."Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established.
Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110
n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."QUESTION;What is the argument of every 'good' moslem who appears in images like those above,
purportedly to decry moslem extremism and moslem terrorism ???
"I am a follower of a brutal and vicious religious philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue. .....But i don't support moslems who are extremists!"
?????
FINALLY;Moslems who are living within a nation like Australia, live within a secular nation, a secular nation ruled by secular laws.
And yet, moslems who live in Australia,
choose to identify themselves
with ISLAM, and to associate themselves
with ISLAM.
And so by definition, all moslems who live in Australia and who self-declare;
"I am a moslem!"
are choosing to support and to associate themselves
with what ISLAM's tenets and doctrines undeniably promote.
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The hatred of everyone who is a disbeliever, and who refuses to convert to ISLAM and to bow down and to worship Allah.
n.b.
'Some moslems' can deny that they themselves
hate disbelievers.
But no moslem can deny that ISLAM, and its tenets and doctrines, sanctions [makes 'holy'],
and encourages, their 'holy' hatred of disbelievers.
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