Frank wrote on May 11
th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 10
th, 2017 at 11:17pm:
That could be claimed of any religious denomination, Soren. Christianity has splintered how many times?
30,000 apparently. Hinduism, how many times?
4 times apparently. Buddhism, how many times?
3 major times apparently. Iconoclasm is a common problem amongst any group of believers.
So, if you're going to make that claim about Islam, what are you going to say about those other major religions, Soren or do they get a free pass because of your Islamophobia?
Diversity in religious belief is a good thing IMO, Soren. It shows that people are thinking about their beliefs, about their views on the universe. It is like diversity in political opinion. It shows self-expression is alive and well. Something we know you dislike, right, Soren? Tsk, tsk.
Diversity in religious beliefs or anything else does NOT mean accepting every permutation and mutation. Islam as it is practiced today has far more unacceptable aspects than any other religion.
Does it? Islam, as it is practised today, by the majority of Muslims is a peaceful, assimilated and well adjusted religion. Yes, there are fundamentalists, however, such people are not confined to only Islam. Christian fundamentalists helped create the Rwanda Genocide, the Balkan wars, the "Troubles" and so on. They have murdered doctors and nurses who performed abortions. They have murdered Gays, trans-sexuals, blacks, Jews and so on. Yet you remain steadfastedly silent about that, Soren. Tsk, tsk.
Quote:That is the point, Brian. We must NOT accept every 'diverse' view just because they are 'diverse'.
No on is suggesting you have to. However, you must treat major religions which are overwhelmingly peaceful and well adjusted and assimilated with respect and tolerance. You do not. You insult Muslims and you treat them like scum, Soren. You claim to be an Australian yet you act more like a Dane. Tsk, tsk.
It is all about language, Soren. Your language is like a three year old's. You deliberately seek to insult people merely because you disagree with what you believe is their beliefs. Australian Muslims are not the creatures you paint them as.
Quote:You seem to purposely conflating 'diverse' with 'acceptable'. But they are very far from interchangeable. And so we criticise and reject the murderous aspects of Islam as unacceptable, 'diverse' though they may be.
And yet you remain silent about the murderous aspects of other religions, Soren. Tsk, tsk.
I do not mistake diverse and acceptable. I make it very clear I am only discussing moderate, tolerant, well adjusted, assimilated, peaceful Muslims when discussing Islam and Muslims, Soren. You make no effort to differentiate between them and the violent, hate-filled, intolerant Islamists. Could it because of your Islamophobia you cannot and will not differentiate between the two groups because you prefer to be simply intolerant of all Muslims because you fear and hate them? Tsk, tsk.
Quote:Many of the most robust distinctions in the English language seem to go over your head, Brian. Diversity doesn't mean acceptable. Look up any dictionary.
An interesting comment, coming from you, who is unable to differentiate between the overwhelming majority of peaceful, tolerant and well assimilated Muslims and their violent co-religionists, Soren. Tsk, tsk.
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