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Reply #30 - May 3rd, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:21pm:
yes, Mechanic ... I know you like colourful pictures, but you didn't answer me. How many did you ask?


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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #31 - May 3rd, 2017 at 8:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:36pm:
... wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:32pm:
It should be noted italts invaders are mostly blacks who are more into petty crime than terrorism, so its all ok.


MUSLIM blacks honky, that's the most important bit for some


Not for Honky it's not. He's said so many times.
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Reply #32 - May 3rd, 2017 at 8:36pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:21pm:
yes, Mechanic ... I know you like colourful pictures, but you didn't answer me. How many did you ask?


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look out the hysterical Islamaphobe is back

how many have you asked Valkie? You see, unlike you I've actually spoken to a few real Italians on the subject
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Gnads wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 6:24pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Gnads wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 5:40pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:28pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Italy allows immigrants


what happened to your conclusions there? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Italians are not worth the trouble of jihad?


some are, some aren't .... much like every other nationality.



I've seen street interviews in Italy regarding the migration flood out of the ME & nthrn Africa .......

most people want them gone.


face it, you'd only watch interviews that show they want them gone


Well no .... some said it was fine ... but the majority no

I suppose there's Karnals, Smithys, Peccars, Mothras & Brians et al in every country.



Quite a lot of them in Italy too. I've seen a few locals on the tele helping those on the shipwrecked boats.

Ban them.
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Reply #34 - May 3rd, 2017 at 8:39pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 6:58pm:


What's the source of the polling, Mechanic? I'm curious.

Of course, we all know you'll never say, so I'm not that curious.
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Reply #35 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:20pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:36pm:
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:21pm:
yes, Mechanic ... I know you like colourful pictures, but you didn't answer me. How many did you ask?


This must be sycophant, sympathiser, traitor 101.

If in doubt or unable to find an insult or suitably infantile response

Ask "HOW MANY"

IT DONT MATTER WHAT, AS LONG AS YOU ASK FOR NUMBERS, THEN YOU CAN DISPUTE IT WITH

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look out the hysterical Islamaphobe is back

how many have you asked Valkie? You see, unlike you I've actually spoken to a few real Italians on the subject


Your kidding right?
A few Italians eh?
What, you cab driver or pizza joint owner.
Deadbeat.

I have many Italian friends.
You do know I lived in Marrickville all my youth, dont you?
Ive been to Italy and lived with my friends parents and extended family.
Italians reall know how to make you welcome........and feed you alllllllll the time.

Ok its been 5 years since I was over there, but every one hates the problem that they have imported.
Tgey all want them gone.
And Ill tell you
Its the same in Finland, Germany, Greece, Sweden, Holland and England.

This CULT spreads hate and fear wherever it goes.
Only stooopid peo Pl e see it as anything but a dangerious, decietful, barbaric and primitive CULT of hate.

Wake up my friend
This is the truth
Tell your cab driver mate.
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Reply #36 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:24pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 6:37pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 12:15pm:
Italy allows immigrants


what happened to your conclusions there? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


they've banned Mosques and Islam ...


Really?  I've only come across a notation that they were discussing banning Mosques and Islam.  Might find it a bit difficult as some of their Mosques date to the 16th century in Poland.  Islam has been in Poland since the 12th century...    Roll Eyes

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they say it has no place in their society...


Some may say that but the more sensible ignore what the lunatics are saying.  Just like abortion is still available in Poland, despite what the Government has tried to do.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
According to Luttwak, the so-called Islamic State has not successfully attacked Italy because the Italians are much more competent at counter-terrorism than other Europeans:

… the Italians differ drastically from the French or Belgians or British, who keep monitoring suspects, filling ample files with lots of reports, photographs, videos, and intercept print-outs, as if they were biographers of the most encyclopedic kind.

The Italians by contrast take action the moment the very first indication comes in. This is sometimes a phone or e-mail intercept, and sometimes a tip-off from an agent (Italy invests modestly but steadily in the foreigners it recruits). But more often it is a friend who reports someone for speaking of jihad, for swearing that he will kill for Hamas, join the Islamic State or do something else.

What follows is an expert interrogation. Many are soon sent home, classified as mere boasters if they turn meek. Those who are proud to be militant are held, and their records are minutely examined to find any criminal infraction for which they can be arrested, tried and imprisoned (unlike the French who treat militant petty thieves as petty thieves, not as militants). If any faults are found in the immigration paperwork, they are deported -- even if they have become Italian citizens -- a measure applied to several vehement imams (181 more imams are currently in prison).

With these methods, the number to be followed 24/7 falls to manageable levels -- the key to the success of the entire system.

Source:

Edward N. Luttwak, Doing counterterrorism right, Nikkei Asian Review, November 30, 2015.
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Andrea Torti
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Written 27 Jul 2016
Unlike other European Countries (France, Germany, etc.) - Italy has held a low profile in anti-IS political and military operations.

Also, years of both left- and right-wing domestic terrorism and organized crime might have given Italy’s intelligence personnel an edge over their European counterparts.
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Fabio Bellobono
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Written 29 Jul 2016
I hope it stays that way, but there are contrasting opinions on why nothing has happened yet. (since september 11th pretty much every european country has been hit by terror attacks, not Italy) The more optimistic ones claim that the Italian intelligence is doing an extremely good work and is advanced with respect to their western counterparts. (internal terrorism in the past decades and constant investigations about mafia might have given them an edge) Some people planning to hit Italy, have been intercepted and secured to justice.

The more realistic reasons might be the following: if they hit Italy, they would hit a major hub for migrants. Terrorists can’t lose such an important access point to Europe. That’s a huge risk. Even more realistically, because Italy are acting in a much more “relaxed” way in fighting the IS with respect to Germany or France. What we are doing is mostly instruct the Peshmerga fighters and provide some logistic support. But still, an attack in Italy could still be a possibility.
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We can't be sure about that because it's a confidential matter but I would consider the following key points:

Italian intelligence had to fight against pretty strong terroristic forces in the past, and still today Mafia is infiltrated into pretty much everything: politics, firms, goods shippings and so on. This situation brought a lot of know how to the intelligence.
From the point above we could imagine that the intelligence could even try to give favours in exchange of information from criminal organizations. Nonetheless, criminal organizations want a free way to make business into the country, so too much troubles from foreigners mean troubles for them! Thus, they could actually do the job even before the intelligence.

Italy is a strategic hub in the Mediterranean sea. Keeping this hub clear could be an important asset for terroristic organizations.
An attack against Italy would mean an attack against the Vatican, the heart of the Church, at least symbolically, which could allow Europe to strongly counterattack possible sources of terrorism.
Last but not least... and this one is just to to downplay the issue... terrorists could find Italy a pretty good place to live (weather, food, loose rules). So... let’s put away bombs and relax Smiley
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Reply #38 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:29pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:20pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:36pm:
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 8:02pm:
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 7:21pm:
yes, Mechanic ... I know you like colourful pictures, but you didn't answer me. How many did you ask?


This must be sycophant, sympathiser, traitor 101.

If in doubt or unable to find an insult or suitably infantile response

Ask "HOW MANY"

IT DONT MATTER WHAT, AS LONG AS YOU ASK FOR NUMBERS, THEN YOU CAN DISPUTE IT WITH

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look out the hysterical Islamaphobe is back

how many have you asked Valkie? You see, unlike you I've actually spoken to a few real Italians on the subject


Your kidding right?
A few Italians eh?
What, you cab driver or pizza joint owner.
Deadbeat.

I have many Italian friends.
You do know I lived in Marrickville all my youth, dont you?
Ive been to Italy and lived with my friends parents and extended family.
Italians reall know how to make you welcome........and feed you alllllllll the time.

Ok its been 5 years since I was over there, but every one hates the problem that they have imported.
Tgey all want them gone.
And Ill tell you
Its the same in Finland, Germany, Greece, Sweden, Holland and England.

This CULT spreads hate and fear wherever it goes.
Only stooopid peo Pl e see it as anything but a dangerious, decietful, barbaric and primitive CULT of hate.

Wake up my friend
This is the truth
Tell your cab driver mate.


Some of Matty's best friends are Italians.

He lived in Marrickville.
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Reply #39 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:32pm
 
Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:28pm:
According to Luttwak, the so-called Islamic State has not successfully attacked Italy because the Italians are much more competent at counter-terrorism than other Europeans:

… the Italians differ drastically from the French or Belgians or British, who keep monitoring suspects, filling ample files with lots of reports, photographs, videos, and intercept print-outs, as if they were biographers of the most encyclopedic kind.

The Italians by contrast take action the moment the very first indication comes in. This is sometimes a phone or e-mail intercept, and sometimes a tip-off from an agent (Italy invests modestly but steadily in the foreigners it recruits). But more often it is a friend who reports someone for speaking of jihad, for swearing that he will kill for Hamas, join the Islamic State or do something else.

What follows is an expert interrogation. Many are soon sent home, classified as mere boasters if they turn meek. Those who are proud to be militant are held, and their records are minutely examined to find any criminal infraction for which they can be arrested, tried and imprisoned (unlike the French who treat militant petty thieves as petty thieves, not as militants). If any faults are found in the immigration paperwork, they are deported -- even if they have become Italian citizens -- a measure applied to several vehement imams (181 more imams are currently in prison).

With these methods, the number to be followed 24/7 falls to manageable levels -- the key to the success of the entire system.

Source:

Edward N. Luttwak, Doing counterterrorism right, Nikkei Asian Review, November 30, 2015.
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How did Italy manage to avoid terrorist attacks in the last decade?
4,544 Views
Why didn't ISIS still execute terrorist attacks in Rome?
6,827 Views
Will ISIS and Islamic terrorists attack Italy?
1,208 Views
Why hasn’t ISIS attacked Italy yet?
1,061 Views
How could ISIS attack Southern Italy and Rome?
2,902 Views
How is fascism seen in today's Italy?
1,029 Views
Why hasn't ISIS attacked Brazil yet?
2,055 Views
Why hasn't ISIS claimed the terrorist attack in Sweden so far?
2,981 Views
How is Italy seen by Chinese?
1,873 Views
Why hasn't anyone terrorized ISIS like they have us?
350 Views
How is Italy seen?
2,219 Views
Why hasn't the ISIS leader not been seen in public for 3 years?
1,019 Views
If a marriage hasn't been consummated, is it legal in the UK and Italy?
922 Views
Why doesn't Italy have Starbucks?
127,641 Views
What are some things you shouldn't do in Italy?
3,298 Views
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Andrea Torti
Andrea Torti, lives in Italy
Written 27 Jul 2016
Unlike other European Countries (France, Germany, etc.) - Italy has held a low profile in anti-IS political and military operations.

Also, years of both left- and right-wing domestic terrorism and organized crime might have given Italy’s intelligence personnel an edge over their European counterparts.
4.8k Views · View Upvotes
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Fabio Bellobono
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Written 29 Jul 2016
I hope it stays that way, but there are contrasting opinions on why nothing has happened yet. (since september 11th pretty much every european country has been hit by terror attacks, not Italy) The more optimistic ones claim that the Italian intelligence is doing an extremely good work and is advanced with respect to their western counterparts. (internal terrorism in the past decades and constant investigations about mafia might have given them an edge) Some people planning to hit Italy, have been intercepted and secured to justice.

The more realistic reasons might be the following: if they hit Italy, they would hit a major hub for migrants. Terrorists can’t lose such an important access point to Europe. That’s a huge risk. Even more realistically, because Italy are acting in a much more “relaxed” way in fighting the IS with respect to Germany or France. What we are doing is mostly instruct the Peshmerga fighters and provide some logistic support. But still, an attack in Italy could still be a possibility.
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Enrico Wayna Capecelatro
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We can't be sure about that because it's a confidential matter but I would consider the following key points:

Italian intelligence had to fight against pretty strong terroristic forces in the past, and still today Mafia is infiltrated into pretty much everything: politics, firms, goods shippings and so on. This situation brought a lot of know how to the intelligence.
From the point above we could imagine that the intelligence could even try to give favours in exchange of information from criminal organizations. Nonetheless, criminal organizations want a free way to make business into the country, so too much troubles from foreigners mean troubles for them! Thus, they could actually do the job even before the intelligence.

Italy is a strategic hub in the Mediterranean sea. Keeping this hub clear could be an important asset for terroristic organizations.
An attack against Italy would mean an attack against the Vatican, the heart of the Church, at least symbolically, which could allow Europe to strongly counterattack possible sources of terrorism.
Last but not least...


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Reply #40 - May 3rd, 2017 at 9:39pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 1:48pm:
issuevoter wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 1:22pm:
This subject needs a little more focus. It is entirely reasonable to suspect that in Europe most recent acts of mass-murder, and many individual cases, emanate from the safe-houses of Islamic Immigration.


Depends what you mean by the safe-houses of Islamic immigration, Issue. Many of the post-Sept 11 acts of mass murder were committed by people who weren't residents. Some were committed by people on student visas, some on work visas. A number were born in Europe. A number had joint citizenship with other countries.

We can safely say these terror attacks were committed by those who call themselves Muslims. It's a bit harder to say that stopping Muslim immigration would solve the problem. 

Think, there are already radicalized Muslims living in Europe. Some are recent converts, having nothing to do with immigration. The September 11 attacks were carried out by people on student visas (studying to become pilots). The Glasgow Airport attack was conducted by doctors on work visas.

I'm not sure if any have been tourists, but would be easy to commit a terror attack on a tourist visa. This means you would have to assess everybody's religion prior to entering a country, or at the point of a visa on arrival. This would require some form of Muslim screening process for people who would not confess to being Muslim if their aim was to enter a country and blow it up. It also means you would have to prevent people converting to radical Islam.

A box on a visa form is not going to fulfill this role. Banning mosques or Muslim prayer halls or bookshops is not going to work either. The Islamicist terrorist message is predominantly spread online.

So how is stopping the immigration of people who admit to being Muslims going to achieve the aim of preventing terrorism?

I'm curious.




So out of touch.

K, thinks [or, K wants us to think] that some moslems are good people!

They are not.

If they were good people,        THEY WOULD NOT BE, A MOSLEM.



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A moslem, is a person who has chosen to accept and embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches him [the moslem] that it is 'lawful' for him [the moslem], to kill those, who do not believe, as he believes.


That is what a moslem is.



A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.

And because every moslem is a follower of ISLAM,       every moslem, is    UNTRUSTWORTHY    and, is a latent wanna-be homicidal maniac.

And it doesn't really matter, if only a very few moslems feel 'inspired' to act - TODAY - on their beliefs,         and are 'inspired' to act on their religious HATRED of those who live an un-ISLAMIC lifestyle, and decide - TODAY - to attempt to kill them.

It does not matter.

All moslems are dangerous people.




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ISLAM, in the Koran, and in the mosque, promotes ISLAMIC supremacism, through the agency of lying, deceit, intimidation, violence, murder, and political violence [i.e. terrorism].




"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

London, Sept.8 [2007]

A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough th to engage in battle.

A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece




Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"


Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine




A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.


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Reply #41 - May 3rd, 2017 at 10:39pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:20pm:
A few Italians eh?
What, you cab driver or pizza joint owner.
Deadbeat.

I have many Italian friends.
You do know I lived in Marrickville all my youth, dont you?
Ive been to Italy and lived with my friends parents and extended family.
Italians reall know how to make you welcome........and feed you alllllllll the time.



your kidding right? you spoke to a few Italians living in Marrickville?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

you're confused, when I said how many Italians have you asked, I meant those living there, that are face to face with the issue. Not some knob in Marrickville that left Italy 50 years ago  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #42 - May 3rd, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
Gordon wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:28pm:
According to Luttwak, the so-called Islamic State has not successfully attacked Italy because the Italians are much more competent at counter-terrorism than other Europeans:



Italy has a very good intelligence service who regularly punch above their weight. They had to be to beat the Mafia.
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Reply #43 - May 3rd, 2017 at 10:46pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Valkie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 9:20pm:
A few Italians eh?
What, you cab driver or pizza joint owner.
Deadbeat.

I have many Italian friends.
You do know I lived in Marrickville all my youth, dont you?
Ive been to Italy and lived with my friends parents and extended family.
Italians reall know how to make you welcome........and feed you alllllllll the time.



your kidding right? you spoke to a few Italians living in Marrickville?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

you're confused, when I said how many Italians have you asked, I meant those living there, that are face to face with the issue. Not some knob in Marrickville that left Italy 50 years ago  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Matty hasn't spoken to them either, he just remembers a few watering their lawns when he was a kid.

And most of them were Greeks.

No, Homo's the expert here. He lives in Western Sydney. Homo went to school with one.
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Reply #44 - May 4th, 2017 at 12:14am
 
[quote author=Gordon link=1493776503/37#37 date=1493810908]According to Luttwak, the so-called Islamic State has not successfully attacked Italy because the Italians are much more competent at counter-terrorism than other Europeans:

… the Italians differ drastically from the French or Belgians or British, who keep monitoring suspects, filling ample files with lots of reports, photographs, videos, and intercept print-outs, as if they were biographers of the most encyclopedic kind.

The Italians by contrast take action the moment the very first indication comes in. This is sometimes a phone or e-mail intercept, and sometimes a tip-off from an agent (Italy invests modestly but steadily in the foreigners it recruits). But more often it is a friend who reports someone for speaking of jihad, for swearing that he will kill for Hamas, join the Islamic State or do something else.

What follows is an expert interrogation. Many are soon sent home, classified as mere boasters if they turn meek. Those who are proud to be militant are held, and their records are minutely examined to find any criminal infraction for which they can be arrested, tried and imprisoned (unlike the French who treat militant petty thieves as petty thieves, not as militants). If any faults are found in the immigration paperwork, they are deported -- even if they have become Italian citizens -- a measure applied to several vehement imams (181 more imams are currently in prison).


Maybe they figure that if they knock down all the supporting posts outside Italy/Rome, the Pope will beg for peace.....

If they attacked the centre of Christendom or Catholic Christendom, at Rome - there are millions who would respond.  Not a good trick for terrorists.

Dumb they may be - stupid they are not.
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