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Reply #75 - May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

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Reply #76 - May 10^th, 2017 at 3:22pm

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

The truth is on the government record, you keep negating that but that is a fact, the stolen generation is a myth as is the attempted genocide, myths that are not supported by fact..

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Reply #77 - May 10^th, 2017 at 3:54pm

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

The truth is on the government record, you keep negating that but that is a fact, the stolen generation is a myth as is the attempted genocide, myths that are not supported by fact..

Official government record: https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/

"This website is one component of the Australian government’s Find & Connect services and projects."

Stolen Generations

"The Stolen Generations are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who, when they were children, were taken away from their families and communities as the result of past government policies.

"Children were removed by governments, churches and welfare bodies to be brought up in institutions, fostered out or adopted by white families.

"The removal of Aboriginal children took place from the early days of British colonisation in Australia.

"It broke important cultural, spiritual and family ties and has left a lasting and intergenerational impact on the lives and wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

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Reply #78 - May 10^th, 2017 at 8:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

The truth is on the government record, you keep negating that but that is a fact, the stolen generation is a myth as is the attempted genocide, myths that are not supported by fact..

Official government record: https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/

"This website is one component of the Australian government’s Find & Connect services and projects."

Stolen Generations

"The Stolen Generations are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who, when they were children, were taken away from their families and communities as the result of past government policies.

"Children were removed by governments, churches and welfare bodies to be brought up in institutions, fostered out or adopted by white families.

"The removal of Aboriginal children took place from the early days of British colonisation in Australia.

"It broke important cultural, spiritual and family ties and has left a lasting and intergenerational impact on the lives and wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

Rhino's been online for a while, and because he hasn't responded, therefore I assume that his whole world has come crashing down around him.

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Reply #79 - May 10^th, 2017 at 8:53pm

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

The truth is on the government record, you keep negating that but that is a fact, the stolen generation is a myth as is the attempted genocide, myths that are not supported by fact..

Official government record: https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/

"This website is one component of the Australian government’s Find & Connect services and projects."

Stolen Generations

"The Stolen Generations are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who, when they were children, were taken away from their families and communities as the result of past government policies.

"Children were removed by governments, churches and welfare bodies to be brought up in institutions, fostered out or adopted by white families.

"The removal of Aboriginal children took place from the early days of British colonisation in Australia.

"It broke important cultural, spiritual and family ties and has left a lasting and intergenerational impact on the lives and wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

Rhino's been online for a while, and because he hasn't responded, therefore I assume that his whole world has come crashing down around him.

Indeed.

Official government records clearly confirm the truth about stolen generations.

I guess Rhino is just getting a little tired of being owned by me, night after night.

Can't really blame the guy.

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Re: 101 Ways That Evil British empire Ruined the World
Reply #80 - May 10^th, 2017 at 8:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Indigenous children were forcibly transferred from one group to another group, without the permission of the childrens' parents.

didnt happen. The only children removed were done so out of regard for the childrens welfare, even then, full blood children were not removed. It was illegal to do so. The public record shows clearly the intent which was altruistic. There was no genocide or any attempt at such, the public record at the time shows this clearly.

That was how it was sold, Rhino, as a for their benefit. Unofficially there was an intention to breed out the indigenous race. Just because the public record does not support it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It appears to me that you don't want to accept the truth as though doing so would challenge your fundamental views of the world, thereby creating dissonance between your thoughts and reality. It's like when a North Korean flees their country and realise that Kim Jong Un didn't discover DNA.

The truth is on the government record, you keep negating that but that is a fact, the stolen generation is a myth as is the attempted genocide, myths that are not supported by fact..

Official government record: https://www.findandconnect.gov.au/

"This website is one component of the Australian government’s Find & Connect services and projects."

Stolen Generations

"The Stolen Generations are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people who, when they were children, were taken away from their families and communities as the result of past government policies.

"Children were removed by governments, churches and welfare bodies to be brought up in institutions, fostered out or adopted by white families.

"The removal of Aboriginal children took place from the early days of British colonisation in Australia.

"It broke important cultural, spiritual and family ties and has left a lasting and intergenerational impact on the lives and wellbeing of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

Rhino's been online for a while, and because he hasn't responded, therefore I assume that his whole world has come crashing down around him.

Indeed.

Official government records clearly confirm the truth about stolen generations.

I guess Rhino is just getting a little tired of being owned by me, night after night.

Can't really blame the guy.

I'm sure he's experiencing a moment of catharsis.

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Reply #81 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:01am

The goriest moment in the history of our proud nation was
American revolutionary War when we got rid of colonial British rule
and became undisputed world power.

If Australia was liberated from British colonial rule, as America was, it would become a world power as America is.
Instead Australia for ever has remained insignificant British colony.
I don't think that the great Australian people deserve such undignified miserable destiny. I really feel sorry for you Aussies .
You even don't have own head of state and own flag.
I can't imagine that we have a foreign Monarch as our head of state???

it would be considered as humiliating occupation as well as an insult
to American dignity and democracy.

Robert Hughes great Australian intellectual and writer, who for more than 50 years lived in exile in USA wrote in his book 'Australia beyond the fatal shore''

''Australia is specially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant''

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Reply #82 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:26am

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Yes I realise they are not the same. That is why we have two different words for them.

Do you think Australia is a democracy?

You tell me.
Is it democracy when non democratically elected monarch has constitutional right to dismiss democratically elected prime minister and democratically elected parliament
as it happened to Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam in 1974???.

Problem is not what people are problem is what people think they are.

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Reply #83 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:32am

rhino wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

capitosinora wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

By the way the genocide on Australian aborigines was specifically done by British and not by Europeans.[/b]

You are misinformed, there was no Aboriginal genocide nor was there any attempt to do so.

That's what Aussie's master Pom says.
Goodness me this becomes entertaining.

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Reply #84 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:43am

Auggie wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

The genocide of the indigenous peoples of Australia occurred under Australian control, mainly after Federation, not under the hands of the British. We often like to shift the blame to Britain, but we're actually the ones to blame. It was the Commonwealth/States which treated the indigenous peoples poorly, not the British.

This is a ludicrous statement. The genocide on Australian Aborigines was manly done by British during British monarch Queen Victoria and continued to present days during Australian head of state British queen Elisabeth II.

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Reply #85 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:50am

capitosinora wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

The goriest moment in the history of our proud nation was
American revolutionary War when we got rid of colonial British rule
and became undisputed world power.

http://www.sligoheritage.com/images/Revolutnary%20War.jpg

If Australia was liberated from British colonial rule, as America was, it would become a world power as America is.
Instead Australia for ever has remained insignificant British colony.
I don't think that the great Australian people deserve such undignified miserable destiny. I really feel sorry for you Aussies .
You even don't have own head of state and own flag.
I can't imagine that we have a foreign Monarch as our head of state???

it would be considered as humiliating occupation as well as an insult
to American dignity and democracy.

Robert Hughes great Australian intellectual and writer, who for more than 50 years lived in exile in USA wrote in his book 'Australia beyond the fatal shore''

''Australia is specially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant''

With a fraction of the population?

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Reply #86 - May 13^th, 2017 at 7:02pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 10:50am:

capitosinora wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

The goriest moment in the history of our proud nation was
American revolutionary War when we got rid of colonial British rule
and became undisputed world power.

https://healthy007.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Laughing-Hard-Meme-07.jpg

If Australia was liberated from British colonial rule, as America was, it would become a world power as America is.
Instead Australia for ever has remained insignificant British colony.
I don't think that the great Australian people deserve such undignified miserable destiny. I really feel sorry for you Aussies .
You even don't have own head of state and own flag.
I can't imagine that we have a foreign Monarch as our head of state???

it would be considered as humiliating occupation as well as an insult
to American dignity and democracy.

Robert Hughes great Australian intellectual and writer, who for more than 50 years lived in exile in USA wrote in his book 'Australia beyond the fatal shore''

''Australia is specially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant''

With a fraction of the population?

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Reply #88 - May 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

So you honestly think we could be a superpower with only 20 million people if only we had a directly elected president?

Or do you think corn would suddenly sprout in the desert?

If you liberated country from British colonial rule you would be able to develop own cultural and national identity, as America did, and become a sovereign powerfull country instead insignificant British colony.

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Reply #89 - May 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm

capitosinora wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

So you honestly think we could be a superpower with only 20 million people if only we had a directly elected president?

Or do you think corn would suddenly sprout in the desert?

If you liberated country from British colonial rule you would be able to develop own cultural and national identity, as America did, and become a sovereign powerfull country instead insignificant British colony.

Australia ruled by Britain ??? Grin

You have no idea. Britain doesn't have any say in any Australian matters you muppet. Your country has more say in Australia than anybody else. You need to do some research.

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