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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #15 - May 7^th, 2017 at 7:52am

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

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Gandalf has a life outside this forum.

Gandalf refuses to explain his beliefs.

Anytime there's a hard question he runs away.

You mean like Freediver does? How interesting, Bobby. You have evidence to support this or will we see more obfuscation from you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian what did you mean when you said we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'? Reply #16 - May 7^th, 2017 at 9:46am LOL bwian is a xenophile he has a love of others... he doesn't love us though. He suffers from a deep and unrelenting cultural cringe and hatred of those who do not share his ideas...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'? Reply #17 - May 7^th, 2017 at 1:36pm He likes to project it too. He recently claimed the British Empire broke apart because we were embarrassed about being an empire.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'? Reply #18 - May 7^th, 2017 at 2:55pm Yes he has displayed his Anglophobic beliefs many times in the past.
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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #19 - May 7^th, 2017 at 4:58pm

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 1:36pm:

He likes to project it too. He recently claimed the British Empire broke apart because we were embarrassed about being an empire.

Did I, FD? Would you care to quote back to us, in context, exactly what I said, versus what you have just claimed I said? Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? How unbecoming of you, FD. Roll Eyes

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #20 - May 7^th, 2017 at 6:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

All mosques start Friday prayer with Imams asking Allah to give muslims victory over the Qawm al-Kafirun (Non Muslims).

Where do you come up with this crap Baron?

The only way you could possibly know this is if you have visited every single Mosque in Australia on a Friday. Have you done that Baron?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #21 - May 7^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

All mosques start Friday prayer with Imams asking Allah to give muslims victory over the Qawm al-Kafirun (Non Muslims).

Where do you come up with this crap Baron?

The muslim author Tarek Fatah said it, are you saying Tarek Fatah is full of crap?

Tarek Fatah is a well known author been a muslim all his life.

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Around the world,every Friday at every mosque,Islamic clerics read an invocation before the formal congregation, praying to Allah to grant victory to Muslims over 'Qawm el-Kafiroon' i.e., Vhristians,Jews,Hindus,atheists and all non muslims.
facebook.com/tarekfatah/posts/10156866174070012

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #22 - May 7^th, 2017 at 7:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

All mosques start Friday prayer with Imams asking Allah to give muslims victory over the Qawm al-Kafirun (Non Muslims).

Where do you come up with this crap Baron?

The only way you could possibly know this is if you have visited every single Mosque in Australia on a Friday. Have you done that Baron?

Have you ever seen this happen at a Mosque Gandalf?

How do you tell which Mosques should be shut down? Would you be in favour of shutting down mosques that do as Baron suggested?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 12^th, 2017 at 6:33pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Gandalf I would appreciate your views on what this Imam says in this video.

He says books like Sahih Al Bukhari should be banned, I see why the sunni Australians have a problem with him, he also says Palestine in Jewish land.

memri.org/tv/australian-shiite-imam-mohammad-tawhidi-we-did-not-come-australia-h...

All I can say is Holy Shi-ite I see why he has gone into hiding after listening to that.

Gandalf- do you agree with this Imam that Palestine is jewish land?

No. Apparently he thinks its ok to drive people off the land they have owned and lived on for many generations - because of what happened 2000 years ago. I'd say the Aborigines in Australia have a pretty good case against us Europeans using that logic wouldn't you say Baron?

Still, I'm glad he criticised the sunnah (Bukhari). Although I disagree that all of Bukhari should be banned - there are some beautiful sayings promoting peace, tolerance and understanding. But it is high time muslims started weeding out the passages that so clearly contradict the message of the Quran.

Should they also weed out chapter 9 Gandalf?

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #23 - May 8^th, 2017 at 12:55am

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 7:52am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

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Gandalf has a life outside this forum.

Gandalf refuses to explain his beliefs.

Anytime there's a hard question he runs away.

You mean like Freediver does? How interesting, Bobby. You have evidence to support this or will we see more obfuscation from you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian what did you mean when you said we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions?

Ah, misquoting again, hey, FD? Nothing new under the sun as far as you're concerned, is there?

Why not quote what I actually said, instead of what you believe I said? Might make a change. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #24 - May 8^th, 2017 at 11:23am

Karnal wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

Yadda wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

Karnal wrote on May 5^th, 2017 at 1:02am:

Let's ask Y.

Y, do you uphold the use of porkies in your campaign against the Moslem?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Excoriate me K.

Do your worst.

But in answer to your inquiry,
whenever i 'use....porkies',
i usually terminate my comments with the phrase; /sarc off

Sorry, Y, was that a no?

There you go, FD, you're joined by Y, who also wants to include porkies in his campaign against the Muselman.

Great minds think alike, no?

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #25 - May 8^th, 2017 at 1:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 12:55am:

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 7:52am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

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Gandalf has a life outside this forum.

Gandalf refuses to explain his beliefs.

Anytime there's a hard question he runs away.

You mean like Freediver does? How interesting, Bobby. You have evidence to support this or will we see more obfuscation from you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian what did you mean when you said we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions?

Ah, misquoting again, hey, FD? Nothing new under the sun as far as you're concerned, is there?

Why not quote what I actually said, instead of what you believe I said? Might make a change. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Oh dearie dearie me bwian, tsk tsk tsk....
YOU misquote reinterpret and mindread all the time bwian... are you being a total hypocrite again?
If you don't want to be thought a liar as well bwian you better start posting actual quotes to back yourself up too eh. You cant be trusted to actually post the truth. Cheesy

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #26 - May 8^th, 2017 at 2:51pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

All mosques start Friday prayer with Imams asking Allah to give muslims victory over the Qawm al-Kafirun (Non Muslims).

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Around the world,every Friday at every mosque,Islamic clerics read an invocation before the formal congregation, praying to Allah to grant victory to Muslims over 'Qawm el-Kafiroon' i.e., Vhristians,Jews,Hindus,atheists and all non muslims.
facebook.com/tarekfatah/posts/10156866174070012

Baron,

Does that mean that moslems are actually, striving against us disbelievers [in the name of Allah] ?

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And what do you imagine that the moslems are going to do to us, if we try to resist their striving against us ?

Or, God forbid, what do you imagine that the moslems are going to do to us, if;
'Allah to grants victory to Muslims over 'Qawm el-Kafiroon' ?

What do the victorious moslems usually do, with their defeated [mortal] enemies ?

Syria ?

Iraq ?

Yemen ?

Saudi ?

Turkey ? [Armenians]

I've heard that the moslems always let the women and the little children live.

"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."

Koran 1.1

Who said that Allah that SATAN was a cruel and deceitful god ?

Google;
what are the 99 names of allah, deceiver

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With the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob......

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.

Deuteronomy 7:12
Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:

1 Kings 8:23
And he said, LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath, who keepest covenant and mercy with thy servants that walk before thee with all their heart:

Job 12:16
With him.....the deceived and the deceiver are his.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #27 - May 8^th, 2017 at 3:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 12:55am:

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 7:52am:

Brian what did you mean when you said we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions?

Ah, misquoting again, hey, FD? Nothing new under the sun as far as you're concerned, is there?

Brian_Ross said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379197632/34#34
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I make no excuses for those [ISLAMIC jurisdiction] nations and their laws, BV.

I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments.

It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them

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I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136432 Gender:	Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'? Reply #28 - May 8^th, 2017 at 3:58pm polite_gandalf wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 6:43pm: Baronvonrort wrote on May 4^th, 2017 at 10:03pm: All mosques start Friday prayer with Imams asking Allah to give muslims victory over the Qawm al-Kafirun (Non Muslims). Where do you come up with this crap Baron?
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Re: which mosques are 'Islamist'?
Reply #29 - May 8^th, 2017 at 4:56pm

Yadda wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 12:55am:

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 7:52am:

Brian what did you mean when you said we have no right or even ability to criticise other ations or religions?

Ah, misquoting again, hey, FD? Nothing new under the sun as far as you're concerned, is there?

Brian_Ross said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379197632/34#34
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I make no excuses for those [ISLAMIC jurisdiction] nations and their laws, BV.

I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments.

It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them.

I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

I wonder why FD has not done this, Yadda? Thank you for finding my quote for me. Do you see the difference between what I said and what FD has said, I said? Considerable difference in the personal pronoun there, now isn't there, Yadda? I wonder why FD chose to misquote me? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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