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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #15 - May 13^th, 2017 at 11:09am

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

It's the same in Malaysia.
Plenty of government jobs are only for Muslims.
This is how Islam spreads.
They follow this up with the death penalty for apostasy.
Pretty soon everyone is religiously bowing and scraping 6 times a day.

Ask Gandalf and Brian. They think Malaysia and Indonesia are great examples of Islam in action.

A statement which defines and clearly explains why moslems who live among us, will and must, always feel hostility and resentment towards us [non-moslems], and towards the secular institutions of our secular society.

And, the cardinal and immutable reason why moslems who live among us can never, ever, be the real and sincere friends, which [to our eyes, and to our faces] our moslem 'friends' pretend to be.

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By Robert Spencer on May 09, 2017 05:25 pm

Indonesia: Jakarta’s Christian governor guilty in “blasphemy” trial, gets two years prison

Ahok committed the cardinal sin of being a Christian in a position of authority.

Islamic law forbids non-Muslims to hold authority over Muslims.

That Ahok was governor of Jakarta made something like this show trial inevitable.

That Islamic supremacists got him on blasphemy, and had to get him in the first place for the crime.....

Google

It is the innate belief and conviction [in the psyche] of the moslem [every moslem], that it is, as a moslem, his 'proper due', that he, as a moslem, should have [political] authority over those who are not moslems.

It is Allah's will, that this should be so.

His imam every day, reinforces that conviction in the psyche of the moslem, at the mosque.

Q.
And what does ISLAM teach is the 'remedy', for the cause, of this lack of the moslem's 'pre-eminence' within a [secular] society ?
[i.e. in every society where moslem communities 'co-exist' with 'disbelievers']

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Jihad.

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https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10335/jihad-against-west

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Un-ISLAMIC 'values' are incompatible with ISLAM.

Political pluralism, promotes a myriad of ideas and values which are un-ISLAMIC.

ISLAM is incompatible with the lifestyles and ideas and values promoted within nations which encourage pluralism.

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"THE RIGHT TO JUDGE"

"It is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyya which are current in the world or to co-exist in the same land together with a jahili system........"

- SAYYID QUTB - ISLAMIC scholar
http://www.islamworld.net/justice.html

OR, Google;
"THE RIGHT TO JUDGE" SAYYID QUTB

Jahiliyya = = any un-ISLAMIC lifestyle, or un-ISLAMIC influence.

e.g. such as pluralism.

The 'Jahiliyya' lifestyle is totally incompatible with ISLAM.

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"....Jahiliyya is a result of the lack of Sharia law, without which Islam cannot exist;"

"...true Islam is a complete system with no room for any element of Jahiliyya"

"...all aspects of Jahiliyya...are "evil and corrupt" "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyya#Jahiliyya_in_contemporary_society

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #16 - May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48832 At my desk.	Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years Reply #17 - May 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm The more they lurch towards Islam, the weaker they will become. If they try really hard they will turn Indonesia into a desert in which to herd their goats and camels.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years Reply #18 - May 13^th, 2017 at 12:31pm herd their goats and camels. Think of the sex tourism from the middle east tho
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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #19 - May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #20 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #21 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

It's been 'done' for many, many centuries, then.

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #22 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:30pm

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

It's been 'done' for many, many centuries, then.

yep. it's a craphole.

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #23 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

It's been 'done' for many, many centuries, then.

yep. it's a craphole.

Homo, you haven't even been to Bali, dear. Stop telling porkies.

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #24 - May 13^th, 2017 at 5:40pm

Karnal wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

It's been 'done' for many, many centuries, then.

yep. it's a craphole.

Homo, you haven't even been to Bali, dear. Stop telling porkies.

What are your thought on the massive Saudi investment in Indonesias religious institutions?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83682 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years Reply #25 - May 13^th, 2017 at 6:31pm Well - moderate Muslims can see things from two sides - their way or their way.... so they're not unbalanced....
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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #26 - May 13^th, 2017 at 6:33pm

Karnal wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:00pm:

Valkie wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

miketrees wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 11:24am:

After all, monkeys hate water.

I seem to remember an Australian politician saying that it was a "Triumph of monkeys over apes" when Japan was invading China or some other Asian country.

It wasn't long until they had bombed mainland Australia.

We should not underestimate our neighbours.

I tried to find a link to that saying,,, failed

Big, BIG, HUGE difference between Japan, China and Indonesia. Huge.

Japan and China are civilized, organized, forward thinking and dedicated.
Their people are patriotic, and brave.

Now Indonesia is disorganized, uncivilized, backward and reliant on handouts.
Its people are cowards, lazy and under-educated.

There is no comparison.
I fear not the tiny monkeys from the north, bring them on.

As soon as Islam got it's filthy claws in Indonesia was done.

It's been 'done' for many, many centuries, then.

yep. it's a craphole.

Homo, you haven't even been to Bali, dear. Stop telling porkies.

The best part of Bali is when the jet you're on going to Europe or cooler climes, even China, flies overhead, and the captain announces he is emptying the toilet tanks..... ah - that special ambience of the Bali rain.... makes the natives feel right at home....

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Re: Ahok jailed for 2 years
Reply #27 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:21pm

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

Indonesia could quite easily fracture along sectarian lines, what a lot of people dont realise there are substantial non Muslim minorities in Indonesia, the official line is that 85 percent of the population identify as Muslim but the real figure in reality could be around 60 percent or so, many people in Indonesia nominate as Muslim simply to get a better job or services, many areas are almost entirely Christian and Bali of course is predominately Hindu.

It's the same in Malaysia. Plenty of government jobs are only for Muslims. This is how Islam spreads. They follow this up with the death penalty for apostasy. Pretty soon everyone is religiously bowing and scraping 6 times a day.

Ask Gandalf and Brian. They think Malaysia and Indonesia are great examples of Islam in action.

They have a shampoo ad in Malaysia with the lady in a hijab. It's on Youtube. Malaysia shampoo advertisement - with a hijab on. Iklan Sunsilk

Jailing a non-Muslim for saying that Muslims should not take the hatred in the Koran seriously is bizarre. Muslims seem to want to insist on the hatreds expressed in the Koran.

Can we hate them for insisting on Koranic hatreds? Or is it OK only for them to jail a Christian who tries, hatefully, to conciliate Muslims and others?

Why can Muslims persecute non-Muslims but non-Muslims cannot persecute Muslims for the same thing? Where are the Australian Muslims condemning the Indonesians for this travesty??

Why are Muslims getting away with what would not be tolerated from any other group? Is it the constant threat of indiscriminate violence?

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