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Reply #15 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
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Seems the Greens presented a poorly prepared bill.

The Australian Medical Association believes NSW abortion laws need to be reviewed, but said it was concerned about the breadth of the Greens' bill.

Meanwhile, are you panicking that women in NSW don't have access to safe abortions?


Do you know what the objections were? Would you like to discuss them?

Do i appear as though i am "panicking" at all, Gordy?

I'm well aware that women in NSW can access safe abortions, but they are still criminalised. I consider this to be absolutely outrageous.

You?


Yes fix the legislation but FFS don't let the Greens anywhere near it, tell them to bugger off and do something they're good at, like collecting unicorn farts.


So are you aware what the objections to the Bill were?

Or what the Bill entailed?


Yes I watched ABC news last night, and also saw how they said most pro-change politicians voted it down because the Green fkd it up.

Please don't vote Green, they're arseclowns.


In what way did the Greens mess it up, Gordy?

You say you know what the objections were. I've asked you three times now if you want to discuss the objections.

You seem unwilling. Why is that?


A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.
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Reply #16 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
So you don't know. Didn't think so.

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Reply #17 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:40pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
So you don't know. Didn't think so.



So you're not annoyed at the greens for stuffing it up.  Didn't think so.
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Reply #18 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm
 
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.



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Reply #19 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.
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Reply #20 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley





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Reply #21 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:52pm
 
Shame Greens, shame for using womens bodies as a political tool.
Even Labor are putting the boot in.

Labor
health spokesman Walt Secord said he voted for the bill because he supported a woman's right to choose but he criticised Dr Faruqi for the way she handled the matter.

"Dr Faaruqi's bill is all about politics and her position in the Greens,"
he told AAP.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/35397504/decriminalise-abortion-debate-set-for-n...
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Reply #22 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:56pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley








And you're certain they rejected it because it was "worthless"? Not because of the conditions of the Bill itself?
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Reply #23 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:58pm
 
Check out the protester on the right, is she implying abortions in NSW are inaccessible?
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Reply #24 - May 12th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
Gordy, whilst you continue to make arguments you cannot even begin to substantiate, i will simply ignore you.

Troll away to your heart's content but know you only serve to make yourself look like a fool to anyone with even rudimentary processing capabilities.
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Reply #25 - May 12th, 2017 at 2:00pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:59pm:
Gordy, whilst you continue to make arguments you cannot even begin to substantiate, i will simply ignore you.

Troll away to your heart's content but know you only serve to make yourself look like a fool to anyone with even rudimentary processing capabilities.


Personally, I'd have voted for the bill but...

"Dr Faaruqi's bill is all about politics and her position in the Greens,"
he told AAP.
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Reply #26 - May 12th, 2017 at 2:01pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley








And you're certain they rejected it because it was "worthless"? Not because of the conditions of the Bill itself?



100% certain no,

On the balance of probabilities based on the fact that most of what the greens do, say and believe it probably was worthless.


Jeez just get someone who knows what the fkk they're doing and submit that, the greens, like one nation are fkken loons and best ignored.


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Reply #27 - May 12th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley








And you're certain they rejected it because it was "worthless"? Not because of the conditions of the Bill itself?



100% certain no,

On the balance of probabilities based on the fact that most of what the greens do, say and believe it probably was worthless.


Jeez just get someone who knows what the fkk they're doing and submit that, the greens, like one nation are fkken loons and best ignored.




So, like Gordy, you have no insight into the topic at hand at all, you're just in it for a Green's bash.

Interesting how you accuse them of precisely what you are both doing yourselves.

Unprepared arguments indeed.

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Reply #28 - May 12th, 2017 at 2:07pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley








And you're certain they rejected it because it was "worthless"? Not because of the conditions of the Bill itself?



100% certain no,

On the balance of probabilities based on the fact that most of what the greens do, say and believe it probably was worthless.


Jeez just get someone who knows what the fkk they're doing and submit that, the greens, like one nation are fkken loons and best ignored.




So, like Gordy, you have no insight into the topic at hand at all, you're just in it for a Green's bash.

Interesting how you accuse them of precisely what you are both doing yourselves.

Unprepared arguments indeed.



Do you not think Greens deserve a bash on this occasion for stuffing up such an important bill? Even Labor had a swipe.

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Re: Abortion still outlawed in NSW and Qld
Reply #29 - May 12th, 2017 at 2:13pm
 
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
mothra wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Gordon wrote on May 12th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
A correctly presented bill would have passed had the greens not stuffed it up. You must be annoyed at them for wasting everyone's time and further endangering women's lives?.



If the greens wrote their bill to the same standard they write their policies, then it literally would have been an abortion.

This is what happens when you allow special needs kids to have an equal say in how things are run.





Oh? You know what the Greens got wrong, do you?

Gordy doesn't.

I'm most happy to discuss it with you if you can tell me why the Bill failed.



I do not, but the politicians who read and considered it, know exactly why it was worthless and therefore rejected.


I do, however, know the greens and the standard of their work tends to be at best pedestrian and not particularly well written.


You can always be assured the special needs kid isn't going to dazzle you with cogent and well considered commentary, it will always be mindless drivel; as do the greens.  Smiley Smiley








And you're certain they rejected it because it was "worthless"? Not because of the conditions of the Bill itself?



100% certain no,

On the balance of probabilities based on the fact that most of what the greens do, say and believe it probably was worthless.


Jeez just get someone who knows what the fkk they're doing and submit that, the greens, like one nation are fkken loons and best ignored.




So, like Gordy, you have no insight into the topic at hand at all, you're just in it for a Green's bash.

Interesting how you accuse them of precisely what you are both doing yourselves.

Unprepared arguments indeed.




The greens have consistently displayed incompetence at representing the deluded fools who voted for them, do we really need to check each time they fail at their job just to make sure it was their gross ineptitude?

My argument is the greens, based on past performance, are grossly inept in their jobs, nothing so far has proven me wrong.



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