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Reply #15 - May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.
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Reply #16 - May 16th, 2017 at 8:36pm
 
This is why you can't keep libs in government.
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Reply #17 - May 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.


So you must be able to provide proof. Wink

You are the one called yourself a liar.

Colin Barnett Premier 2008 to 2017


Electricity 2009 – 2012 – 21.9%
Water 2009 - 2012  - 69%
Gas – 2009 – 2012 – 17%

http://www.wacoss.org.au/StateElection2013/ElectionFactsheets.aspx
Electricity ~ 27% increase 2013 -2017

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/electricity-bills-to-increase-...


Water ~25% increase 2013 - 2017

About 160% without gas. That gas price must have exploded. Wink
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Reply #18 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
juliar wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
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Now if the  Libs were spending the mining boom income on infrastructure then that is good govt ?

WA is heading towards becoming the Poverty State.
But they werent. And west Australians want to know where the mining royalties went because it sure wasnt on infrastructure. Personally i think the inquiry by Mcgowan is going to ultimately result in jail terms for official corruption for many members of the Barnett government and cronies. There been fraud on a massive scale, that much is obvious.
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Reply #19 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
Well, you could find some facts.
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Reply #20 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.


So you must be able to provide proof. Wink

You are the one called yourself a liar.

Colin Barnett Premier 2008 to 2017


Electricity 2009 – 2012 – 21.9%
Water 2009 - 2012  - 69%
Gas – 2009 – 2012 – 17%

http://www.wacoss.org.au/StateElection2013/ElectionFactsheets.aspx
Electricity ~ 27% increase 2013 -2017

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/electricity-bills-to-increase-...


Water ~25% increase 2013 - 2017

About 160% without gas. That gas price must have exploded. Wink

From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).

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Reply #21 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:22pm
 
I suspect Royalties for Regions had something to do with the soaring utility prices.
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Reply #22 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm
 
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. Wink

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Reply #23 - May 16th, 2017 at 11:08pm
 
lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. Wink

So its not 700 percent. No one can deny costs have increased enormously under Barnetts government, eclipsing the CPI. What happened to the mining royalties? This should be a non partisan argument.
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Reply #24 - May 17th, 2017 at 12:47am
 
I trust that is the golden pineapple - in Queenslund, on the other hand, there are two major occupations - banana benders and pineapple rougheners.... both have phallic implications as their entire focus of being, which fits well with many Queenslunders....

Only in Queenslund can you have a study/survey that gives the result that ONLY 52% of people drink alcohol to get drunk... the rest drink it to stay sober, it seems....

Free Beer at the Officer's Mess!  (anyone catch that one?)...
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Reply #25 - May 17th, 2017 at 12:53am
 
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:08pm:
lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm:
rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. Wink

So its not 700 percent. No one can deny costs have increased enormously under Barnetts government, eclipsing the CPI. What happened to the mining royalties? This should be a non partisan argument.



Unfortunately it can't be a bi-partisan argument - since the name of the game is blame laying and not resolution and learning from past mistakes.

Why waste money playing the blame game as the Libs did with their Commission Of Idiots, when what needs to be looked at is the realities of here and now, and putting past mistakes into perspective?

Lots of that blame-gaming here and in politics.... so instead of learning from such failures in the past as Howard's profligate spending of a boom, and Hawke's sabotage of industrial relations and thus the balance of power between worker and slave owner ... all we get is more and more of the same - and nothing changes.

I had an older brother who had psychiatric issues - I very early learned that fighting over something never resolves it - it only puts it into simmer mode until it erupts again.... and again.. and again....

I would never follow an oldest in the family or a single child.. anywhere.... they WILL get you killed...

This is what is happening with politics in this nation - endless arguing over already dead meat....
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Reply #26 - May 17th, 2017 at 7:10am
 
Tsk Tsk!!  The old clumsy MM has tripped himself up again by just copying rubbish from Lefty Propaganda Sites that the paw soal doesn't understand.

One thing is certain, if MM says something you know the opposite is the TRUTH - what a typical Leftie.

WA was running on the income from the mining and when the mining downturn happened WA was left with no income which is what is stuffing the imposter Labor"govt" up now and they are trying to blame someone anyone.

The imposter Labor "govt" has been given a poisoned chalice and the Libs are smiling as they prepare to clean up the mess in 3 years or less.

Wonder if Pauline will bring the imposter Labor "govt" down in the WA Senate by using her Senate seats ?
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Reply #27 - May 17th, 2017 at 7:38am
 
Wonder how many of the remaining 6 or 7 libtards will retired disgraced from enquiry findings , licking my lips in anticipation .
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Reply #28 - May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am
 
Now a welcome change from MM's Lefty Propaganda - learn what is REALLY HAPPENING over there in the meth capital of Aust.

Things is grim and gunna get grimmer under the imposter Labor "govt".





Why WA is falling behind the rest of Australia
Vetti Kakulas news.com.au January 23, 20176:46pm

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The WA mining boom is over and the state is struggling, which is a shame, because Perth is lovely.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA was once a booming, rich, mining state. A place where FIFO workers earned big bucks, lived in mansions, drove luxury cars and rode jet skis on their weeks off.

Now the heyday is over and the former mining and construction workers are struggling to find work.

WA’s job market is bleak to say the least, according to the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics figures.

Fulltime jobs for West Australians have been hard to come by for the last 24 months, falling from 958,300 in December 2014 to 902,200 in December 2016. This means WA has averaged a loss of 2945 fulltime jobs a month.

Meanwhile there was a slight improvement in WA’s unemployment rate — dropping from 6.9 per cent to 6.6 per cent for December.

But according to former chief economist at ANZ and Bank of America Saul Eslake those figures can be deceiving.

“When the mining industry expands people move over from the eastern states,” he told news.com.au.

“Something that tends to dampen how far the unemployment rate rises is when people go home after the boom is over, they might be unemployed in NSW or Victoria.”

People are leaving the state at a rapid rate.

There were more departures than arrivals in WA for 2014-15, which has seen Perth’s rent and housing prices plummet.

In fact house prices have been dropping in Perth for seven consecutive quarters now, with prices now matching what they were in early 2013.

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You can still get a character filled house like this right in the middle of Perth’s CBD for less than a $1 million. Picture: Realestate.com.auSource:Supplied

And in more bad news Mr Eslake expects WA’s job market to get worse this year and said it will be harder to find fulltime work.

SO WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?

Most of these fulltime jobs came from the boom time days, mid-2000s, where FIFO workers arrived in droves to get their hand on hefty salaries paid by mining heavyweights like Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton and Fortescue Metals Group.

China was experiencing an economic boom and spending big on building infrastructure, where steel or iron ore is a key ingredient.

The iron ore price surged to an average $US187.18 a tonne in February 2011, and the big iron ore players ramped up production.

That’s where the old adage “all good things come to an end” rings true and later on that year the price went on a downhill spiral.

WA Premier Colin Barnett blamed BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto for the low iron ore prices saying they were “flooding the market.”

Last year the iron ore price was hovering around the $US50-60 mark.

Consequently, there’s been more than 20,000 fulltime jobs shed in the past two years in WA mining.

And Rio Tinto plans to axe a further 500 employees before the March WA Election.

In the oil and gas sector, it’s a similar case.

The companies hire 1000s of workers during a project’s construction phase, but once they’re operating and in full-swing that number drops down to the 100’s.

A good example is Chevron’s Gorgon project, which went into production in March 2016.

The US energy giant employed around 6500 workers during the construction phase of the Barrow Island project — now that number has declined to about 350.

“The reality is the boom is over and WA’s past the peak of the boom and the respite on prices that’s been seen since doesn’t eliminate it,” Mr Eslake said.

“If iron ore and other commodity prices stay at the levels they’ve reached at recent days for any length of time there might be some respite.”

The price of iron ore reached a two year high of more than $US83 a tonne on Monday.

THE SOLUTION

Workforce diversity specialist Conrad Liveris said WA must create 1500 jobs a month to maintain the current unemployment rate.

“WA needs to look at different industries, healthcare creates about 50,000 jobs each year nationally, WA has the capacity to lead on that,” he said.

“It needs to focus on where its advantages lie — agriculture, health, higher education and trade or services.

“Barnett’s tourism push won’t lead to more fulltime jobs, they are likely to be seasonal and part-time.”

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When it comes to tourism, WA has natural wonders (like Rottnest Island) in spades. But tourism is seasonal. Picture: Jessica O'BreeSource:Supplied


The sad story of WA the state plunging into poverty under an imposter Labor "govt" continues overleaf
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Reply #29 - May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am
 
The sad story of WA the state plunging into poverty under an imposter Labor "govt" continues...


There could be further job losses if WA’s Labor Party wins the State Election in March.

Leader Mark McGowan plans to axe the $1.6 billion Perth Freight Link Project, which includes the Roe 8 extension.

Mr Barnett said the project employs, directly and indirectly, more than 3000 West Australians.


The Chamber of Commerce and Industry WA wants payroll tax to be addressed. The annual threshold is $850,000 and the industry group said its hurting businesses and preventing new jobs.

“The majority of WA businesses are small and medium sized businesses, so it’s critical WA is in a place where SMEs can succeed,” CCIWA chief executive Deidre Willmott said.

“Businesses tell CCI they’re putting a stop to employing more workers to prevent their business from being slugged with another tax.”

Mr Eslake said successive WA Governments should have been holding off on spending during the mining boom and had a “future fund.”

“This is why the State Government is appealing for approval to sell the poles and wires, which will create some money to be spent on infrastructure.


“WA can diversify its economy by branching out into other things, tourism is the most obvious one.”

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/why-wa-is-falling-behi...



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A sign of the times in WA the State of Poverty

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