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Reply #90 - May 21^st, 2017 at 2:00pm

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No, they aren't. They don't drink.

Gandalf likes to point out that Islamic wife beating is better than western wife beating because they are sober and respectful when they do it.

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The amount of blood they've shed pales in comparison to the amount we've shed in the West.

Everything Muslims do pales in comparison. Their incompetence is their only redeeming feature.

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Honestly? I think that the West should sign a treaty with ISIS stipulating the following condition: the West will stay out of their business; they can have all the territory from Morocco to the Pakistan for themselves as their Caliphate; we'll withdraw embassies and consulates from those nations. We won't involve ourselves in their affairs as long as they don't involve themselves in ours, and send terrorists after us. They can set up their caliphate within those borders and govern themselves how they want with no interference.

Ah, we should facilitate ISIS now, in the idiotic hope they will be happy with whatever we tell them they can have? We have spent about 1000 years forcing them out of Europe, containing them, breaking their slaves raids of Europe and Africa, and finally almost ending the slave trade in the middle east. It is almost done. But not, at the last minute, you want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and wind all that progress back.

And this massive escalation in sex slavery is your solution to helping women?

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Reply #91 - May 21^st, 2017 at 3:34pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Gandalf likes to point out that Islamic wife beating is better than western wife beating because they are sober and respectful when they do it.

I disagree then. It doesn't matter. All wife-beating is unacceptable, full stop. As far as I'm concerned, I of one mind to got through the Quran with the correction tape and edit out all the verses I don't like.

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Reply #92 - May 21^st, 2017 at 3:40pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Everything Muslims do pales in comparison. Their incompetence is their only redeeming feature.

Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Ah, we should facilitate ISIS now, in the idiotic hope they will be happy with whatever we tell them they can have?

Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 2:00pm:

But not, at the last minute, you want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and wind all that progress back.

So, what do we do then? Do you want to see all migration from Muslim-majority countries?

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Reply #93 - May 21^st, 2017 at 3:46pm

Wife beating is okay if you first buy them flowers and chocolates.

And 'beating' is not really the correct word. 'Bitch-slapping' your wife is a better description. You can slap her around the prayer room in the house, making sure she doesn't fall against the little lectern that holds the family copy of the Koran.

If Mothra married a Muslim she would be perfectly happy to be loved by him in this way. It shows he cares. She'd feel honoured to be bitch-slapped around the home until she came to her senses and agreed with his point of view.

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Reply #94 - May 21^st, 2017 at 5:19pm

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Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

They do civilisation on a smaller scale too.

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Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

And capture millions of sex slaves along the way. You think that would be bad too, right?

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Reply #95 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:26pm

Susan Carland always makes sure to be obedient to her husband Waleed Aly. As a good Muslim wife she knows that any persistent baulking at his authority just might see her being bitch-slapped around the house ~ being careful not to upset the lectern holding the Koran in the prayer room, of course.

While he's the head of the household, Muslim-style, she knows her place in the marriage is to be his dutiful subordinate, and that daughter Aisha occupies a subservient and inferior status within the Islamic religion than does her son Zayd.

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Reply #96 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Wife beating is okay if you first buy them flowers and chocolates.

And 'beating' is not really the correct word. 'Bitch-slapping' your wife is a better description. You can slap her around the prayer room in the house, making sure she doesn't fall against the little lectern that holds the family copy of the Koran.

If Mothra married a Muslim she would be perfectly happy to be loved by him in this way. It shows he cares. She'd feel honoured to be bitch-slapped around the home until she came to her senses and agreed with his point of view.

I just don't think that's the case.

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Reply #97 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:37pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:19pm:

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Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

They do civilisation on a smaller scale too.

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Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

And capture millions of sex slaves along the way. You think that would be bad too, right?

Yes of course, it would be bad. And any of the other stuff they pull.

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Reply #99 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:38pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Susan Carland always makes sure to be obedient to her husband Waleed Aly. As a good Muslim wife she knows that any persistent baulking at his authority just might see her being bitch-slapped around the house ~ being careful not to upset the lectern holding the Koran in the prayer room, of course.

While he's the head of the household, Muslim-style, she knows her place in the marriage is to be his dutiful subordinate, and that daughter Aisha occupies a subservient and inferior status within the Islamic religion than does her son Zayd.

Mmm. I don't think Waleed is that devout as a Muslim.

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Reply #100 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:40pm

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:19pm:

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Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

They do civilisation on a smaller scale too.

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Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

And capture millions of sex slaves along the way. You think that would be bad too, right?

Yes of course, it would be bad. And any of the other stuff they pull.

Now you sound like a neocon.

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Reply #101 - May 21^st, 2017 at 6:43pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:40pm:

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:19pm:

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Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

They do civilisation on a smaller scale too.

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Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

And capture millions of sex slaves along the way. You think that would be bad too, right?

Yes of course, it would be bad. And any of the other stuff they pull.

Now you sound like a neocon.

No, I sound like a liberal. I never claimed that Isis wasn't evil, I just claimed that one cannot say that Islam as a religion is evil. They're two separate things.

Neither do I support a Muslim ban. But I will defend liberal principles.

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Reply #102 - May 21^st, 2017 at 8:53pm

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Wife beating is okay if you first buy them flowers and chocolates.

And 'beating' is not really the correct word. 'Bitch-slapping' your wife is a better description. You can slap her around the prayer room in the house, making sure she doesn't fall against the little lectern that holds the family copy of the Koran.

If Mothra married a Muslim she would be perfectly happy to be loved by him in this way. It shows he cares. She'd feel honoured to be bitch-slapped around the home until she came to her senses and agreed with his point of view.

I just don't think that's the case.

Muslim spokesman Keysar Trad was honest enough to faithfully represent the Koran on this matter of husbands being sanctioned by Islam to slap their wives if they should persist in defying their husband's wishes.

Of more interest to me is none other than Tony Abbott making a complete ass of himself on the Andrew Bolt Show by firstly condemning Keysar Trad for having been honest, and then contradicting himself by waffling on about Islam needing an apologist version that abrogates the current version so that all the bad stuff in the sacred writings of Islam can be re-jigged to come up smelling roses.

I'll be perfectly honest and admit that before watching this interview with Abbott I never suspected he was so full of shìt, and so capable of voicing such bare-faced nonsense. Apparently he now sees himself as a champion and defender of Islam. How many reincarnations does this devious has-been have in his kit-bag?

Here's Trad telling it like it is ... and then we see Abbott shooting the messenger (Trad) because he didn't lie to Andrew Bolt about the Koran saying it's perfectly okay to slap your wife around under the rules of Islam.

Abbott soiling himself

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Reply #103 - May 21^st, 2017 at 9:08pm

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:43pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:40pm:

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:19pm:

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Incompetence has nothing to do with it; it only comes down to civilization.

They do civilisation on a smaller scale too.

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Actually, you're right, that would probably be worse, because it would give them an opportunity to develop their military power.

And capture millions of sex slaves along the way. You think that would be bad too, right?

Yes of course, it would be bad. And any of the other stuff they pull.

Now you sound like a neocon.

No, I sound like a liberal. I never claimed that Isis wasn't evil, I just claimed that one cannot say that Islam as a religion is evil. They're two separate things.

Neither do I support a Muslim ban. But I will defend liberal principles.

By killing people in the middle east?

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Reply #104 - May 21^st, 2017 at 9:18pm

Auggie wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Susan Carland always makes sure to be obedient to her husband Waleed Aly. As a good Muslim wife she knows that any persistent baulking at his authority just might see her being bitch-slapped around the house ~ being careful not to upset the lectern holding the Koran in the prayer room, of course.

While he's the head of the household, Muslim-style, she knows her place in the marriage is to be his dutiful subordinate, and that daughter Aisha occupies a subservient and inferior status within the Islamic religion than does her son Zayd.

Mmm. I don't think Waleed is that devout as a Muslim.

Are you saying that to a serious degree he's an apostate for not supporting certain parts of the Koran even though these parts are the direct Word of Islam's god?

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