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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38934 Gender:	Re: Caesar's version of Islam Reply #45 - May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Actually there is only 10 of them. You are quoting from the Pentateuch... and Moses receiving the 10 Commandments is part of that History... Faaark! Why do you play stupid so often! I know where it comes from.....the Old Testament which you told me was......'history.'
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Reply #46 - May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm

moses wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

AugCaesarustus wrote: Reply #12 - Yesterday at 5:45pm

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Moses, interpretation includes ignoring verses. I don't re-interpret the violent verses, I just ignore them.

Even if Islam preaches hate and intolerance, there's no reason why a person just can't ignore those verses.

And by the way, I absolutely condemn all acts of violence against anyone, irrespective of the reasons. I'm so much of a pacifist that I don't even consider poverty as a reason for a violence.

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Just ignore the verses which preach hate, intolerance and mass murder?

The reson for this logic is?

It's called using a brain.

[quoteBecause muslims and their apologists know it would destroy islam, if an honest inquiry into their doctrine which espouses the hate, torture and mass murder so alluring to the fundamentalists like isis et al were held

It only destroys it because of how people see religion. Most religious people see religion as they truth. I don't see religion that way. No religion or ideology has a monopoly on the truth.

The problem is you're interesting religion as fundamentalists interpret it.

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So today 2017 leftards and muslims prefer the islamic inspired bloodshed death and destruction to an honest review of the evil putrescence in the teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah and the verses of the quran

Incorrect. We prefer no bloodshed.

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Reply #47 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:01pm

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

You discard that which you disagree with....

Like I said that makes you a "bad" Muslim for reasons I've already pointed out and as such that makes you a heretic or an apostate in which case you end up dead.

So, no you don't understand my approach. On what logic do I disregard what I disagree with?

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Reply #48 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:22pm

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Actually there is only 10 of them.
You are quoting from the Pentateuch... and Moses receiving the 10 Commandments is part of that History...

Faaark! Why do you play stupid so often! I know where it comes from.....the Old Testament which you told me was......'history.'

Why do I get censored and YOU don't eh?

Anyhoo, you are the one with comprehension problems not me.

It is history... not my problem you don't get it. Cheesy

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Reply #49 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:24pm

Auggie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

You discard that which you disagree with....

Like I said that makes you a "bad" Muslim for reasons I've already pointed out and as such that makes you a heretic or an apostate in which case you end up dead.

So, no you don't understand my approach. On what logic do I disregard what I disagree with?

So basically quoting you... you claim I don't get it... then say I did.... but want further confirmation????

Cheesy

You really are losing the argument. Roll Eyes

Or maybe its YOU who don't understand what you are talking about. Cheesy

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Reply #50 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:26pm

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Actually there is only 10 of them.
You are quoting from the Pentateuch... and Moses receiving the 10 Commandments is part of that History...

Faaark! Why do you play stupid so often! I know where it comes from.....the Old Testament which you told me was......'history.'

Why do I get censored and YOU don't eh?

Anyhoo, you are the one with comprehension problems not me.

It is history... not my problem you don't get it. Cheesy

Is all of the OT 'history' Grendel?

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Reply #51 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:28pm

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Actually there is only 10 of them.
You are quoting from the Pentateuch... and Moses receiving the 10 Commandments is part of that History...

Faaark! Why do you play stupid so often! I know where it comes from.....the Old Testament which you told me was......'history.'

Why do I get censored and YOU don't eh?

Anyhoo, you are the one with comprehension problems not me.

It is history... not my problem you don't get it. Cheesy

Is all of the OT 'history' Grendel?

Oh dear, with every post you get deeper and deeper... Grin

Did it all happen in the past? Grin

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Reply #52 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:36pm

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:28pm:

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Aussie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Actually there is only 10 of them.
You are quoting from the Pentateuch... and Moses receiving the 10 Commandments is part of that History...

Faaark! Why do you play stupid so often! I know where it comes from.....the Old Testament which you told me was......'history.'

Why do I get censored and YOU don't eh?

Anyhoo, you are the one with comprehension problems not me.

It is history... not my problem you don't get it. Cheesy

Is all of the OT 'history' Grendel?

Oh dear, with every post you get deeper and deeper... Grin

Did it all happen in the past? Grin

Of course, because the OT preceded the NT, it 'happened' in the past. What did you mean when you posted:

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How many times must you be told the OLD TESTAMENT is Jewish Religious History.

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Reply #53 - May 25^th, 2017 at 9:49pm

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Auggie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

You discard that which you disagree with....

Like I said that makes you a "bad" Muslim for reasons I've already pointed out and as such that makes you a heretic or an apostate in which case you end up dead.

So, no you don't understand my approach. On what logic do I disregard what I disagree with?

So basically quoting you... you claim I don't get it... then say I did.... but want further confirmation????

Cheesy

You really are losing the argument. Roll Eyes

Or maybe its YOU who don't understand what you are talking about. Cheesy

You have an understanding of it, but...

It's only a simple understanding.... you're 5% of the way there.

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Reply #54 - May 25^th, 2017 at 10:27pm

Auggie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Auggie wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Grendel wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

You discard that which you disagree with....

Like I said that makes you a "bad" Muslim for reasons I've already pointed out and as such that makes you a heretic or an apostate in which case you end up dead.

So, no you don't understand my approach. On what logic do I disregard what I disagree with?

So basically quoting you... you claim I don't get it... then say I did.... but want further confirmation????

Cheesy

You really are losing the argument. Roll Eyes

Or maybe its YOU who don't understand what you are talking about. Cheesy

You have an understanding of it, but...

It's only a simple understanding.... you're 5% of the way there.

You have no proof of that at all.
You just like to put down people you lose arguments with.
Grow up.

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Reply #55 - May 26^th, 2017 at 10:14am

Aussie wrote; Reply #35 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

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Do they follow the OT, Moses?

In what way?

Are you referring to ancient text which tells of a barbaric society some 4000 years ago?

It appears to me that the Jews have progressed with the times, we know they have contributed much to mankind, they are a

successful peaceful nation surrounded by a barbaric mass of muslims. That's about as much as I can tell you about them.

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Reply #56 - May 26^th, 2017 at 10:15am

AugCaesarustus wrote Reply #46 - Yesterday at 8:59pm

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It only destroys it because of how people see religion. Most religious people see religion as they truth. I don't

see religion that way. No religion or ideology has a monopoly on the truth.

The problem is you're interesting religion as fundamentalists interpret it.

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Incorrect. We prefer no bloodshed.

You're making excuses and sidestepping the real issue of islamic terrorism and what role islam plays in it.

islam is the root cause of islamic terrorism. That's the issue.

The commands of allah / teachings of muhammad / verses in the qur'an, all must be addressed by muslims and their

apologists in order to stop the bloodshed death and destruction, which they cause and motivate.

If you argue against a thorough review of islamic doctrine which clearly advocates the atrocities being committed, then

the obvious answer is, you're happy with the status quo of hate torture and mass murder being so happily perpetrated by

muslims, as they follow the qur'an to the very letter.

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Reply #57 - May 26^th, 2017 at 10:42am

moses wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 10:14am:

Aussie wrote; Reply #35 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

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Do they follow the OT, Moses?

In what way?

Are you referring to ancient text which tells of a barbaric society some 4000 years ago?

It appears to me that the Jews have progressed with the times, we know they have contributed much to mankind, they are a

successful peaceful nation surrounded by a barbaric mass of muslims. That's about as much as I can tell you about them.

They have indeed, Moses. And yet they follow a book far more violent and sinister than the Muselman.

What does this tell you?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Caesar's version of Islam Reply #58 - May 26^th, 2017 at 12:35pm You need to stop being just a disingenuous p...k, karnal.
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Reply #59 - May 26^th, 2017 at 5:06pm

moses wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 10:14am:

Aussie wrote; Reply #35 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

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Do they follow the OT, Moses?

In what way?

Are you referring to ancient text which tells of a barbaric society some 4000 years ago?

It appears to me that the Jews have progressed with the times, we know they have contributed much to mankind, they are a successful peaceful nation surrounded by a barbaric mass of muslims. That's about as much as I can tell you about them.

Some Jews may have, some have not, Moses. Ultra-Orthodox Jews practice many of the same beliefs as do many Islamist Muslims. Except we know how bad the Islamists can be, do you recognise how bad the Ultra-Orthodox Jews can be?

Then we have the Jews who believe they should be able to steal the land from it's inhabitants, within the Occupied Territories, which Israel controls. They also believe that they can disinherit the Palestinians within Israel. Are they all "peaceful people"?

No one, including Muslims or Jews deserves to be persecuted, Moses. Do you recognise the persecution that many Jews and Muslims suffer from, from Christians? Anti-Semitism was invented in England in the Medieval period of history. Islamophobia appears to have been invented in the mid-20th century. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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