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Reply #15 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:30pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid...

The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking. It has no place in modern society. We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one. There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes. It is why we can all interbreed with one another. Roll Eyes

We arevall of the same genetic make up, we agree on this.
But its not what we are that matters, its what we do.
Who cares what colour they are, it matters not
But when someone of any colour decides to harm another, to disrupt the civilized people or threaten normal law abiding people, then their actions are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

One group over all others, in every country does just that.
Crime, rape, murder, pedophile marriage, terorism, FGM,

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Reply #16 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

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Re: we need a citizens referendum
Reply #18 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:35pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

Readers are invited to give examples of any improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc. given to us by Frank.

Anybody? Anybody?

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Re: we need a citizens referendum
Reply #19 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 7:08pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

Here you go Frank....

http://www.australia.gov.au/about-australia/australian-story/afghan-cameleers

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Re: we need a citizens referendum
Reply #20 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:01pm

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

And you know what the best part of the joke of that was? It excluded millions of British subjects based on the colour of their skin.

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Reply #21 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:03pm

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All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

I'm willing to meet you in the centre here by supporting an Australian values test for citizenship. I might even be willing to support a cut-back on refugees, but if that's the case it has to be across the board - all countries; we shouldn't discriminate based on race or culture, which means that if a white Zimbabwean farmer wants asylum, he/she can't have it.

It's either no one has the right or everyone has the right. You can't pick and choose.

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: we need a citizens referendum Reply #22 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:05pm Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:34pm: Sunni Muslims. Total ban. Shia on a strict vetting process. Ahmadiyya totally welcome. So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries?
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Reply #23 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:14pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Sunni Muslims. Total ban.
Shia on a strict vetting process.
Ahmadiyya totally welcome.

So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries?

What is the difference between a French Muslim and a Pakistani Muslim? A refugee Muslim or a convert Muslim?

What's the difference between a French, German, Chinese or Indonesian Nazi? Communist?

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Reply #24 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:16pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Sunni Muslims. Total ban.
Shia on a strict vetting process.
Ahmadiyya totally welcome.

So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries?

What is the difference between a French Muslim and a Pakistani Muslim? A refugee Muslim or a convert Muslim?

What's the difference between a French, German, Chinese or Indonesian Nazi? Communist?

Because immigration policy is based on country of origin, not race or religion. Citizens from France can travel to Australia on visa-waver programme as we can to there. If we start excluding their citizens, then they'll start excluding ours.

I don't know about you, but I liked Paris.

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Reply #25 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:35pm

... wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one. There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes. It is why we can all interbreed with one another.

Oh god, not this idiocy again.

Disprove what I have stated, Honky. Otherwise, piss off with your stupidity. Genetics is what makes us what we are. We all share the same genetic pool, it is what makes us human beings. It is what allows us to interbreed with each other, no matter what "race" we are. Time you caught up with the 21st century, like the rest of us, thinking, intelligent, human beings. Oh, that's right, you don't qualify on the first two parts, do you? Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:40pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid...

The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking. It has no place in modern society. We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one. There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes. It is why we can all interbreed with one another. Roll Eyes

We arevall of the same genetic make up, we agree on this.
But its not what we are that matters, its what we do.
Who cares what colour they are, it matters not
But when someone of any colour decides to harm another, to disrupt the civilized people or threaten normal law abiding people, then their actions are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

One group over all others, in every country does just that.
Crime, rape, murder, pedophile marriage, terorism, FGM, all are part of this CULT

Australia over the years has welcomed many many races and religions from all over the world.
These people have come to our country and assimilated, contributed and generally enhanced our lifestyle and culture.

Then this CULT comes to our country
It brings with it insults, barbaric practices, crime and terrorism.
This CULT has no intention of changing their ways.
They expect, no, DEMAND that we respect them while they show nothing but disrespect for our country and culture.
Every single country infected by this cult suffers
It citizens are subjected to this primitive CULTs influence and horrors.

The time has come.
This CULT must either respect and adapt to civilization.
Or
Leave for a country that accepts its barbaric and primitive practices.

WE MUST DEMAND A REFERENDUM

WE MUST DEMAND THAT OUR HAND WRINGING POLITICIANS GET OFF THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AND ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

This CULT does not mix with civilized, modern and human people.

Let it exist where it can bear the fruits of its disgusting existence elsewhere.

Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo. You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them. The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists. They don't interpret their religion the same way. That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else. That is why they kill their co-religionists. Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them. You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims. Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:43pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point. Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind. Enjoying getting wet? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point. Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind. Enjoying getting wet? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Show us one single Christian terrorist act that Christians disowned. Just one, mong. One.
SHow us evidence of how the Christians did not own up to it.

Go on, Bwian Munchausen, here's your chance to prove your point. Can you do it?

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Reply #29 - Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:52pm

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.

Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point. Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind. Enjoying getting wet? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Show us one single Christian terrorist act that Christians disowned. Just one, mong. One.
SHow us evidence of how the Christians did not own up to it.

Go on, Bwian Munchausen, here's your chance to prove your point. Can you do it?

Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Troubles in Northern Ireland. The establishment of the modern Jewish state in Palestine. How about you talk about those events, Soren? Hey? Roll Eyes

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