Quote:Lets get one thing straight - nowhere anywhere in the Quran does it tell muslims to slaughter infidels for being infidels. Nowhere.
Right. Is it for not being Muslims?
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2016 at 10:08am:
5. Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then
kill the Mushrikun
(see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and
give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
In fact the only circumstances in which fighting is explicitly permitted that we have come across include: 1. when treaties have been broken by the enemy (chapter 9), 2.
You are misrepresenting the Koran Gandalf. That is not what the verse says. It says to slaughter the infidel unless you have a treaty with them, except for when the break the treaty. The treaty is the exception to the general rule of slaughtering the infidel, and the broken treaty is the exception to that exception - one that Muhammad liked to exploit on the weakest of pretexts.
freediver wrote on Jul 30
th, 2016 at 10:08am:
4. Except those of the Mushrikun with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves Al- Mattaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).
5. Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then
kill the Mushrikun
(see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and
give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
And on *EVERY* one of these instances, it always orders muslims to stop when the oppression stops and/or when the enemy inclines towards peace.
You are misrepresenting the Koran again Gandalf. It says to stop the slaughter for the sacred months.
Quote:I have given my interpretations with logic and evidence
You have misrepresented the Koran, then accused me of lying when I suggest other Muslims might tell the same lies about the Koran.
Quote:But if you are still unsure about what lying means, allow me to explain through an example: taking a claim you heard only once from a single muslim, and then writing an article in which you attribute the claim to multiple muslims - is a bare faced lie. Furthermore, it is lying again to claim, when challenged about this, to claim that you referenced other muslims besides that one muslim - when you demonstrably did not.
Can you quote any of these lies Gandalf?
Are you the only Muslim that tells these particular lies about the Koran?
Did you make these "interpretations" and "logic" up yourself, or are you getting nit from somewhere else? Why won't you reveal your sources?
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