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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #15 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:33pm

cods wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:23pm:

[/img]Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women....

I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices... Sad

I see. So only those you like are allowed the freedom to dress as they please. How very democratic of you cods.

and you would allow them in your cab I am sure..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6442662-3x2-700x467.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:23pm:

It always amazes me just how many "men" are frightened by a piece of women's clothing.

Gotta laugh Grin

thats the trouble it isnt just a piece of

clothing...

do you call a ski mask a piece of clothing as well

would you be happy to see all sorts of men walking around with them on??..

would you find them amusing..http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/4/masks-4.jpg

would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???...

yes or no will do.. Roll Eyes

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

People can wear whatever they like on their heads (or any other part of their body).

Tell me cods, would you have this burns victim prosecuted for wearing this head covering?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38867 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #16 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm Quote: would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???... You wanted 'Yes or No.' No.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 48385 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #17 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:43pm Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Quote: would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???... You wanted 'Yes or No.' No. Racist Islamophobe.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139923 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #18 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:44pm cods: do you want these masks banned?
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #19 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women....

I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices... Sad

Why should they go somewhere where they are forced to wear something because somewhere else forces them not to wear something?

Don't you think a demographic, civilised country should support individual freedoms?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #20 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35600 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #21 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:55pm Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Quote: would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???... You wanted 'Yes or No.' No. Why not, Aussie?
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #22 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

If you do not show me your face because your idiotic Islamic religion holds my culture, where the face is shown, in contempt and you do this in my culture, then the least I can do is to hold you in utter contempt and refuse to deal with you ON YOUR DESPICABLE TERMS.

That's why, critical nonthinker extraordinaire.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #23 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:27pm

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

I bet you don't get one.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #24 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

If you do not show me your face because your idiotic Islamic religion holds my culture, where the face is shown, in contempt and you do this in my culture, then the least I can do is to hold you in utter contempt and refuse to deal with you ON YOUR DESPICABLE TERMS.

That's why, critical nonthinker extraordinaire.

Why do you assume that they hold your culture in contempt?

Why can't they be a part of "your" culture and still wear what they want?

Frank, i did ask for a reasonable answer.

Would you like to try again?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 48385 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #25 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:44pm: cods: do you want these masks banned? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/1412294881305_wps_21_Dana_jpg.jpg Medical. Not ideological, Turdy McTurdface.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35600 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #26 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:32pm Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:44pm: cods: do you want these masks banned? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/1412294881305_wps_21_Dana_jpg.jpg Medical. Not ideological, Turdy McTurdface. So, you want everyone to think within your parameters?
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #27 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:34pm

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

If you do not show me your face because your idiotic Islamic religion holds my culture, where the face is shown, in contempt and you do this in my culture, then the least I can do is to hold you in utter contempt and refuse to deal with you ON YOUR DESPICABLE TERMS.

That's why, critical nonthinker extraordinaire.

Why do you assume that they hold your culture in contempt?

Because in my culture you do not interact with others while hiding your face. Because in my culture PERSONHOOD is important. Because in my culture women are not required to submit to the idea that their PERSONHOOD is the evil temptation of men and so they must hide their woman-ness and personhood

Cheeses!!!! You are soooo bloody thick, it's painful.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #28 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #29 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:34pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Why would someone want to refuse to deal with them?

And what reasonable argument could they ,make to support that decision?

If you do not show me your face because your idiotic Islamic religion holds my culture, where the face is shown, in contempt and you do this in my culture, then the least I can do is to hold you in utter contempt and refuse to deal with you ON YOUR DESPICABLE TERMS.

That's why, critical nonthinker extraordinaire.

Why do you assume that they hold your culture in contempt?

Because in my culture you do not interact with others while hiding your face. Because in my culture PERSONHOOD is important. Because in my culture women are not required to submit to the idea that their PERSONHOOD is the evil temptation of men and so they must hide their woman-ness and personhood

Cheese!!!! You are soooo bloody thick, it's painful.

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

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