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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Winning: court upholds face veil ban Jul 12^th, 2017 at 6:54am The European Court of Human Rights has upheld Belgium's law banning the full face veil in public. It has said in short that wearing face veils is not compatible with democracy. Can it be that some semblance of sanity is returning to Europe? Now, is there such a court in this country with similar vision and courage.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40780 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #1 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 8:04am Good. When will they ban that cult ?
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96725	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #2 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 4:53pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 8:04am: Good. When will they ban that cult ? When they abandon their constitutions, Sprint. In the fullness of time.
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Reply #3 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 4:59pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 6:54am:

The European Court of Human Rights has upheld Belgium's law banning the full face veil in public.

It has said in short that wearing face veils is not compatible with democracy.

Can it be that some semblance of sanity is returning to Europe?
Now, is there such a court in this country with similar vision and courage.

No it did not. Democracy was never mentioned.

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Reply #4 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:01pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 4:53pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Good.

When will they ban that cult ?

When they abandon their constitutions, Sprint.

In the fullness of time.

Well, Europeans are good at that.
Apart from the Benelux states, Denmark and Norway, Australia's constitution is olden than any of the written European constitutions.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #5 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm Whatsamatter Karnage? You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you? I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38867 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #6 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Whatsamatter Karnage? You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you? I'm sure your good friend Mothra does. And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #7 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:46pm I think the European Court's decision to uphold the ban had less to do with 'democracy' than it did with the concern that any decision to overturn the ruling would only seek to cement anti-EU sentiments in Belgium.....
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #8 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women.... I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices...
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Reply #9 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:02pm

Auggie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

I think the European Court's decision to uphold the ban had less to do with 'democracy' than it did with the concern that any decision to overturn the ruling would only seek to cement anti-EU sentiments in Belgium.....

So European Court are not independent from the EU Commissions and their political interests?? Ie there is no proper separation of powers in the EU?

Brexit IS the answer then.

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Reply #10 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Whatsamatter Karnage?
You want women to have the freedom to show their faces don't you?
I'm sure your good friend Mothra does.

And why can't they have the freedom to hide them, Mr 73? Democracy, is it?

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

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Reply #11 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:52pm

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women....

I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices... Sad

yes , all muslims should go live in those countries.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139923 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #12 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:23pm It always amazes me just how many "men" are frightened by a piece of women's clothing. Gotta laugh
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Reply #13 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women....

I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices... Sad

I see. So only those you like are allowed the freedom to dress as they please. How very democratic of you cods.

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Reply #14 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:23pm

[/img]Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:17pm:

cods wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

they can always go and live in a country that prefers its women folk to be covered head to toe and only to be seen in the company of other women....

I am not sure where they are but I know they have a few choices... Sad

I see. So only those you like are allowed the freedom to dress as they please. How very democratic of you cods.

and you would allow them in your cab I am sure..

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:23pm:

It always amazes me just how many "men" are frightened by a piece of women's clothing.

Gotta laugh Grin

thats the trouble it isnt just a piece of

clothing...

do you call a ski mask a piece of clothing as well

would you be happy to see all sorts of men walking around with them on??..

would you find them amusing..

would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???...

yes or no will do.. Roll Eyes

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