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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #60 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm:

Quote:

would aussie allow someone wearing that into his cab???...

You wanted 'Yes or No.'

No.

Why not, Aussie?

Bloke wearing a balaclava in a Cab where there are cameras everywhere?

Nah. He takes it off, and then gets in.

What about women who are unrecognisable under their extensive make-up? Sunglasses and facial hair?

Where do you draw the line?

Simple. If I can see they have gone out of their way to disguise.....no......they ain't getting in the Cab.

Fair point. Fair distinction.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #61 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:05pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??

I support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants.

I find it the absolute height of hypocrisy that people like you and Frank tell women what they must not wear under the pretence that it for their rights.

These woman have pressure put on them Mothra. It isn't their choice. What right minded human being would spend their life walking around in a bag??

The women in Australia overwhelmingly report that it is their choice. Some even do it against their husband's wishes.

Have you not listened to them?

bs. they cover girls up when they are 8 years old. They are conditioned. Wake up to yourself.

You're wrong Hammer. And you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Telling women what they can or cannot wear.

You have no right to do that.

Are you happy with skinheads wearing swastikas??

Why would anyone be happy about that?

Moreover, a swastika isn't an item of clothing.

I'm surprised disappointed that you need that explained to you, Homo.

It's their beliefs sh itbag and their choice. Stick to your beliefs hey?

You really struggle, don't you Homo?

It has nothing to do with happiness.

I wouldn't be happy to see someone like you wearing a swastika on your Target hoody.

Not in a million years.

However, I wouldn't abuse you for doing so, and I wouldn't demand any law be made to stop you stitching it on to your clothing.

Do whatever you like, Homo, but don't expect me to be happy about it.

Have you ever heard of the term 'tolerance'?

Lol. Look who i'm asking.

Tolerance?? You don't tolerate anything. Tolerate the peoples choice for Trump you muppet and stop whinging?

The people don't want Trump.

More people voted for Clinton than him.

And, most Americans want him impeached now.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #62 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??

I support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants.

I find it the absolute height of hypocrisy that people like you and Frank tell women what they must not wear under the pretence that it for their rights.

These woman have pressure put on them Mothra. It isn't their choice. What right minded human being would spend their life walking around in a bag??

The women in Australia overwhelmingly report that it is their choice. Some even do it against their husband's wishes.

Have you not listened to them?

bs. they cover girls up when they are 8 years old. They are conditioned. Wake up to yourself.

You're wrong Hammer. And you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Telling women what they can or cannot wear.

You have no right to do that.

Are you happy with skinheads wearing swastikas??

Why would anyone be happy about that?

Moreover, a swastika isn't an item of clothing.

I'm surprised disappointed that you need that explained to you, Homo.

It's their beliefs sh itbag and their choice. Stick to your beliefs hey?

You really struggle, don't you Homo?

It has nothing to do with happiness.

I wouldn't be happy to see someone like you wearing a swastika on your Target hoody.

Not in a million years.

However, I wouldn't abuse you for doing so, and I wouldn't demand any law be made to stop you stitching it on to your clothing.

Do whatever you like, Homo, but don't expect me to be happy about it.

Have you ever heard of the term 'tolerance'?

Lol. Look who i'm asking.

Tolerance?? You don't tolerate anything. Tolerate the peoples choice for Trump you muppet and stop whinging?

The people don't want Trump.

More people voted for Clinton than him.

And, most Americans want him impeached now.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

Well tolerate the US political system that put Trump in? It was devised by smarter people than you ass clown.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #63 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #64 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??

I support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants.

I find it the absolute height of hypocrisy that people like you and Frank tell women what they must not wear under the pretence that it for their rights.

These woman have pressure put on them Mothra. It isn't their choice. What right minded human being would spend their life walking around in a bag??

The women in Australia overwhelmingly report that it is their choice. Some even do it against their husband's wishes.

Have you not listened to them?

bs. they cover girls up when they are 8 years old. They are conditioned. Wake up to yourself.

You're wrong Hammer. And you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Telling women what they can or cannot wear.

You have no right to do that.

Are you happy with skinheads wearing swastikas??

Why would anyone be happy about that?

Moreover, a swastika isn't an item of clothing.

I'm surprised disappointed that you need that explained to you, Homo.

It's their beliefs sh itbag and their choice. Stick to your beliefs hey?

You really struggle, don't you Homo?

It has nothing to do with happiness.

I wouldn't be happy to see someone like you wearing a swastika on your Target hoody.

Not in a million years.

However, I wouldn't abuse you for doing so, and I wouldn't demand any law be made to stop you stitching it on to your clothing.

Do whatever you like, Homo, but don't expect me to be happy about it.

Have you ever heard of the term 'tolerance'?

Lol. Look who i'm asking.

Tolerance?? You don't tolerate anything. Tolerate the peoples choice for Trump you muppet and stop whinging?

The people don't want Trump.

More people voted for Clinton than him.

And, most Americans want him impeached now.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

Well tolerate the US political system that put Trump in? .

I do.

Within minutes of him winning the election, I was the first to congratulate him.

However, the truth of the matter is, more people wanted Clinton.

And, most Americans now want to see him impeached.

Why don't you respect their choice, Homo?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #65 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #66 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #67 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??

I support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants.

I find it the absolute height of hypocrisy that people like you and Frank tell women what they must not wear under the pretence that it for their rights.

These woman have pressure put on them Mothra. It isn't their choice. What right minded human being would spend their life walking around in a bag??

The women in Australia overwhelmingly report that it is their choice. Some even do it against their husband's wishes.

Have you not listened to them?

bs. they cover girls up when they are 8 years old. They are conditioned. Wake up to yourself.

You're wrong Hammer. And you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Telling women what they can or cannot wear.

You have no right to do that.

Are you happy with skinheads wearing swastikas??

Why would anyone be happy about that?

Moreover, a swastika isn't an item of clothing.

I'm surprised disappointed that you need that explained to you, Homo.

It's their beliefs sh itbag and their choice. Stick to your beliefs hey?

You really struggle, don't you Homo?

It has nothing to do with happiness.

I wouldn't be happy to see someone like you wearing a swastika on your Target hoody.

Not in a million years.

However, I wouldn't abuse you for doing so, and I wouldn't demand any law be made to stop you stitching it on to your clothing.

Do whatever you like, Homo, but don't expect me to be happy about it.

Have you ever heard of the term 'tolerance'?

Lol. Look who i'm asking.

Tolerance?? You don't tolerate anything. Tolerate the peoples choice for Trump you muppet and stop whinging?

The people don't want Trump.

More people voted for Clinton than him.

And, most Americans want him impeached now.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

Well tolerate the US political system that put Trump in? .

I do.

Within minutes of him winning the election, I was the first to congratulate him.

However, the truth of the matter is, more people wanted Clinton.

And, most Americans now want to see him impeached.

Why don't you respect their choice, Homo?

And, most Americans now want to see him impeached??? Proof? More rubbish from Pecca. Most American's haven't been asked anything. Grin

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #68 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #69 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

It's funny how a feminist like Mothra supports women walking around life in a bag??

I support a woman's right to wear whatever she wants.

I find it the absolute height of hypocrisy that people like you and Frank tell women what they must not wear under the pretence that it for their rights.

These woman have pressure put on them Mothra. It isn't their choice. What right minded human being would spend their life walking around in a bag??

The women in Australia overwhelmingly report that it is their choice. Some even do it against their husband's wishes.

Have you not listened to them?

bs. they cover girls up when they are 8 years old. They are conditioned. Wake up to yourself.

You're wrong Hammer. And you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Telling women what they can or cannot wear.

You have no right to do that.

Are you happy with skinheads wearing swastikas??

Why would anyone be happy about that?

Moreover, a swastika isn't an item of clothing.

I'm surprised disappointed that you need that explained to you, Homo.

It's their beliefs sh itbag and their choice. Stick to your beliefs hey?

You really struggle, don't you Homo?

It has nothing to do with happiness.

I wouldn't be happy to see someone like you wearing a swastika on your Target hoody.

Not in a million years.

However, I wouldn't abuse you for doing so, and I wouldn't demand any law be made to stop you stitching it on to your clothing.

Do whatever you like, Homo, but don't expect me to be happy about it.

Have you ever heard of the term 'tolerance'?

Lol. Look who i'm asking.

Tolerance?? You don't tolerate anything. Tolerate the peoples choice for Trump you muppet and stop whinging?

The people don't want Trump.

More people voted for Clinton than him.

And, most Americans want him impeached now.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

Well tolerate the US political system that put Trump in? .

I do.

Within minutes of him winning the election, I was the first to congratulate him.

However, the truth of the matter is, more people wanted Clinton.

And, most Americans now want to see him impeached.

Why don't you respect their choice, Homo?

And, most Americans now want to see him impeached???

That's correct.

And more people voted for Clinton than Trump.

Why won't you respect their choice, Homo?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #70 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

More snobbery from pecca. The biggest social justice warrior on earth is a snob who laughs at peoples dead relatives.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #71 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #72 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35600 Gender:	Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban Reply #73 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm Just words, Hammer. Isn't that what you told me?
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greggerypeccary

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #74 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

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