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Reply #120 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:36pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


So not tolerating the intolerance of conservative Islam means you've abandoned your progressiveness? Sounds a bit Joseph Heller to me.
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Reply #121 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:50pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 

Bollards on the streets, cultural diversity innit.  Grin

How soon till we prove how tolerant we are with soldiers on the corners to accompany the bollards?  Smiley


There are indeed soldiers on the corners of some European streets, son. I'm not sure why you think the intolerant are being tolerated.
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Reply #122 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:55pm  
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


So not tolerating the intolerance of conservative Islam means you've abandoned your progressiveness? Sounds a bit Joseph Heller to me.


No, Gordon, making stuff up is not tolerated by Western reason. We Westerners gave that up after the invention of impericism, the scientific revolution and the Enlightenment.

Don't blame me. I don't make the rules.
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Reply #123 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:50pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 

Bollards on the streets, cultural diversity innit.  Grin

How soon till we prove how tolerant we are with soldiers on the corners to accompany the bollards?  Smiley


There are indeed soldiers on the corners of some European streets, son. I'm not sure why you think the intolerant are being tolerated.


The soldiers ain't there to demonstrate tolerance, they are there to protect innocent bystanders from the alakbahing cultists. 

Lessons from Europe innit.  No wonder you chose to ignore that little lump in the mung beans.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #124 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:50pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 

Bollards on the streets, cultural diversity innit.  Grin

How soon till we prove how tolerant we are with soldiers on the corners to accompany the bollards?  Smiley


There are indeed soldiers on the corners of some European streets, son. I'm not sure why you think the intolerant are being tolerated.


The soldiers ain't there to demonstrate tolerance, they are there to protect innocent bystanders from the alakbahing cultists. 

Lessons from Europe innit.  No wonder you chose to ignore that little lump in the mung beans.    Roll Eyes


What, you want Australia to put soldiers on the streets?

What for?
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Reply #125 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 4:53pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:50pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 

Bollards on the streets, cultural diversity innit.  Grin

How soon till we prove how tolerant we are with soldiers on the corners to accompany the bollards?  Smiley


There are indeed soldiers on the corners of some European streets, son. I'm not sure why you think the intolerant are being tolerated.


The soldiers ain't there to demonstrate tolerance, they are there to protect innocent bystanders from the alakbahing cultists. 

Lessons from Europe innit.  No wonder you chose to ignore that little lump in the mung beans.    Roll Eyes


What, you want Australia to put soldiers on the streets?

What for?


I do?  Maybe you can quote what I said that led you to that conclusion. 

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Reply #126 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:00pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:50pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
So where are we with this thread after all these pages.

Have we at least all agreed that the values of conservative Islam is a polar opposite of modern progressive western culture?


We agree that, Gordon. Others, however, have turned their back on modern progressive Western culture in their pursuit of the Muselman.

Superior culture, innit.


Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 

Bollards on the streets, cultural diversity innit.  Grin

How soon till we prove how tolerant we are with soldiers on the corners to accompany the bollards?  Smiley


There are indeed soldiers on the corners of some European streets, son. I'm not sure why you think the intolerant are being tolerated.


The soldiers ain't there to demonstrate tolerance, they are there to protect innocent bystanders from the alakbahing cultists. 

Lessons from Europe innit.  No wonder you chose to ignore that little lump in the mung beans.    Roll Eyes


What, you want Australia to put soldiers on the streets?

What for?


I do?  Maybe you can quote what I said that led you to that conclusion. 



Sure.

Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
The soldiers ain't there to demonstrate tolerance, they are there to protect innocent bystanders from the alakbahing cultists. 

Lessons from Europe innit.

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Reply #127 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:06pm  
Comprehension is an issue for you Karnal, lessons from Europe, said it about three times, hell you quoted it.

We got the bollards, how long till the troops on the corners...like Europe.

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Reply #128 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
Comprehension is an issue for you Karnal, lessons from Europe, said it about three times, hell you quoted it.

We got the bollards, how long till the troops on the corners...like Europe.



You're right, son, no conprende. What lesson are you trying to teach us here?
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Reply #129 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:06pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
Comprehension is an issue for you Karnal, lessons from Europe, said it about three times, hell you quoted it.

We got the bollards, how long till the troops on the corners...like Europe.



You're right, son, no conprende. What lesson are you trying to teach us here?


No lesson.  Who is us?  The voices in your head again?  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #130 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:16pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
Comprehension is an issue for you Karnal, lessons from Europe, said it about three times, hell you quoted it.

We got the bollards, how long till the troops on the corners...like Europe.



You're right, son, no conprende. What lesson are you trying to teach us here?


No lesson. 


Good-o. Let us know when you've got another lesson from Europe.

I'll be there in a few weeks. I'll show you the piccies.

Karnal knocking back a few beers with the locals, Karnal getting a back-rub off a horny bird, Karnal getting his ring kissed by the pope, Karnal getting chucked out of the pub, Karnal punching on with the soldiers on the streets...

Let that be a lesson to you, son.
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Reply #131 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:20pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
Comprehension is an issue for you Karnal, lessons from Europe, said it about three times, hell you quoted it.

We got the bollards, how long till the troops on the corners...like Europe.



You're right, son, no conprende. What lesson are you trying to teach us here?


No lesson. 


Good-o. Let us know when you've got another lesson from Europe.

I'll be there in a few weeks. I'll show you the piccies.

Karnal knocking back a few beers with the locals, Karnal getting a back-rub off a horny bird, Karnal getting his ring kissed by the pope, Karnal getting chucked out of the pub, Karnal punching on with the soldiers on the streets...

Let that be a lesson to you, son.


I look forward to the pictures. You will post them won't you?

I hope you and the voices in your head all have a nice holiday.  Smiley
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Reply #132 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:24pm  
Frank wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:35am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
You will explain where i went wrong in my reasoning, won't  you, paki?


ummm.. completely evading the actual point, contradicting yourself and resorting to ad hominem? Or was this a trick question?

The spanish, italians, greeks are resqueing muslim boat people near their shores - yemeni and gulf arab muslims let muslim boat people die near their shores. Muslims would seek asylum from other muslims if they could get the help, resettlement services, and chances they are given by the kuffar Westerners acting on  Christian, not islamic principles.

That is the actual point.


Oh I think I understand Frank, so when you said:

Why  are they all leaving the 'islamic lands' and seek 'protection' from the the christian kuffars from their fellow muslims?

you didn't actually mean that all of the asylum seekers are only going to christian/kuffar lands to seek protection - you really meant to say that there are in fact 10s of thousands seeking protection in other muslim lands every year - yes? Simple enough mistake to make I suppose.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #133 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:26pm  
Karnal wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
No, old boy, on your part. Your squishy, evasive, yeah-but-no-but mendacity doesn't even begin to describe your dishonesty here. You have, as ever, been proven to be a fake - on stilts.

Have another stool - have two. Your cultural superiority is a fraud. We now know who the real Paki is.

University of Balogney, innit. Sister-school of the Faculty of Pakistani Studies, Lahore.



You are lying and you know it.

Muslim countries are not re-settling the millions of Muslims refugees, made refugees by Islam's civil war.   They keep them in holding pens to dehumanise, degrade and then unleash onto the kuffar.  There is NO permanent resettlement program for Muslim refugees in Muslim countries to meet the challenge of Muslim refugees. They do not give a shite and are keen to pass the problem they have created onto the kufar.


Most of them are not even signatories to the Convention.
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Reply #134 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:28pm  
Secret Wars wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
Or maybe on viewing the lessons from Europe there is a growing awareness that tolerating the intolerant is a waste of frigging time and dangerous. 


You're probably right. And yet I have a soft spot for Frank, I just don't have the heart to close the door on him completely - even though, as you point out, indulging his lies and mendacity is indeed a waste of frigging time and dangerous.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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