Daesh is a fascist, militant organization with Middle Eastern cultural elements.

This is how we should view, define and resolve the issue.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:


Be careful, you may be schooled....

Secret Wars wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 3:22pm:


Actually I don't mind Frank, and I too was speaking about you. I guess my question is what issue do you have with me that you don't have with all the feral bigoted diatribe that gets thrown around here. Read much of what moses says? He literally said that 100% of male muslims are mentally disabled psychopaths who are so stupid they squat to pee. And thats him on a good day. The fact that I, as a muslim male, take offense at that (well not really to be honest)  is beside the point entirely. As you say, we are talking about what floats your boat, and I'm actually interested to know, but I'm little confused. Where, for example, was all your high and mighty lecturing about religious "cultists" when the resident christian fundamentalist boasted that he believes all muslims, every man woman and child are latent wannabe psychopathic killers - along with all his bible quotes to back him up? But I stress, I'm not complaining about them - I'm just curious to know what motivates you to waltz into these discussions every now and then, weed through all the offensive bigoted racism against muslims, and somehow find what the muslim says so objectionable? Yeah I get it, you don't like Islam (or presumably any religion, even though you never seem to say anything about any of the others) - but honestly where do you get off with your seeming delight at calling me "cultist" at every opportunity and sneering and jeering at my posts as if there aren't far more offensive posters on the opposite side?

Actually I've asked FD the same questions - since as the resident standard bearer of freedom, I have always found it strange that he never has anything to say about the daily calls to ban Islam, close mosques and take away every freedom from muslims you can think of. Yet if he hears a muslim or worse, a spineless apologist for Islam even hint at curbing freedom, then you'll get the full treatment: 30 page threads mocking you, another 50 threads banging on about this horrendous attack on freedom, and of course entry into the hall of shame - aka the wiki. FD is hypocritical about this, but at least he does kinda acknowledge it and gives some sort of defense - which is that he considers Islam a far worse threat to freedom than anything else. Would you be open enough to acknowledge this secret? That you will ignore or even pardon anti-muslim bigotry because you are "choosing your battles" as it were?

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gosh secret - am I right in assuming you took that tongue-in-cheek response of mine to heart? But anyway it was not misrepresenting you - in fact my intention was to highlight exactly what you were "representing" (the threat extremist muslims) to make a point about how you are deciding not to "represent" the threat of anti-Islam bigotry - even when you literally land smack bang in the middle of ground zero of anti-Islam bigotry.

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oh my - precious much secret?

Fear not though, I'm not the freedom-hating intolerant caricature you seem so desperate to paint me as. If you spend any time here at all you'll see I allow frank and moses hurl their insults at me on a daily basis. I think the last post I deleted was from one of the apologists.

freediver wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:


it a command for muslims to kill the mushrikun wherever one finds them. Or is this a trick question?

Karnal wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 12:58pm:

Israel is an actual country, recognised by the UN. 'Palestine' isn't.

Frank wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:


Do you want to tell him, G?

freediver wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:


No FD, you have never asked me that question before. Fancy that eh?

The real question though should be around the context of that command. In case you hadn't noticed, I have argued at length that there is a context which I won't repeat here. You on the other hand want to insist there is no context and that it should be taken in complete isolation. So what you really want me to say is that this command is a blanket command to kill non-muslims for being non-muslim (even though it makes no mention of this justification), no ifs, no buts, just wholesale slaughter for all places, for all time. Why you are so desperate to get me to "admit" that my religion must necessarily be one of everlasting intolerance and slaughter, rather than accept my personal interpretation that Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace - which one would think would be a good thing and something that is desperately needed with so much intolerance and violence in the name of Islam - is beyond me. But we've been over this territory ad-infinitum as you know.