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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49811 At my desk.	Re: Islam - the Left looks away. Reply #60 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 12:25pm No other religion comes close to Islam in terms of promoting the spread of violence and oppression.
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Reply #61 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

No, they let bombs off in London, Rome, Cairo, etc. hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk, Terrorism is Terrorism, no matter who commits it or what it's reasoning is. Roll Eyes

TWO THOUSAND years ago, you stupid, stupid bloody idiot!!!

didn't check the link did you? Cheesy

I'm curious, what bombs did they have 2000 yrs ago?

and you call others idiot Cheesy

This is where the link takes you, pet rock:

Zealotry in the 1st century[edit]
Main article: Zealotry in Jewish history
According to a paper authored by then Center for Defense Information research analyst Mark Burgess, the 1st century Jewish political and religious movement called Zealotry was one of the first examples of the use of terrorism by Jews.[4] They sought to incite the people of Judaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from Israel by force of arms. The term Zealot, in Hebrew kanai, means one who is zealous on behalf of God.[5][6] The most extremist groups of Zealots were called Sicarii.[4] Sicarii used violent stealth tactics against Romans. Under their cloaks they concealed sicae, or small daggers, from which they received their name. At popular assemblies, particularly during the pilgrimage to the Temple Mount, they stabbed their enemies (Romans or Roman sympathizers, Herodians), lamenting ostentatiously after the deed to blend into the crowd to escape detection. In one account, given in the Talmud, Sicarii destroyed the city's food supply so that the people would be forced to fight against the Roman siege instead of negotiating peace. Sicarii also raided Jewish habitations and killed fellow Jews whom they considered apostates and collaborators.

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Reply #62 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:25pm

The proof is in the pudding.

Leftards rise in a frenzy of exculpations for global islamic terrorism.

They all prefer the bloodshed death and destruction caused and motivated by islamic doctrine, to a thorough examination of the evil in the qur'an.

Oh well it'll come as sure as the sun will rise and set.

The world will eventually get sick of the leftard backed islamic atrocities, then turn on the duo of evil (muslims and their apologists).

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Reply #63 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

LOL Bwian and co like to portray Christians as global terrorists threatening the world as we know it and that they carry out more terrorist acts than Muslims.

Now if that isn't delusional idiocy of the highest order, I don't know what is.

They have no credibilty.

As for Jewish Terrorism, yes there has been.

How many acts of Jewish global terrorism is taking place today. Isn't it true that the Jews themselves brought these extremists under control in a very short time bwian.

When will the Muslims do the same?

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Reply #64 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:46pm

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 8:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

No, they let bombs off in London, Rome, Cairo, etc. hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk, Terrorism is Terrorism, no matter who commits it or what it's reasoning is. Roll Eyes

TWO THOUSAND years ago, you stupid, stupid bloody idiot!!!

didn't check the link did you? Cheesy

I'm curious, what bombs did they have 2000 yrs ago?

and you call others idiot Cheesy

This is where the link takes you, pet rock:

Zealotry in the 1st century[edit]
Main article: Zealotry in Jewish history
According to a paper authored by then Center for Defense Information research analyst Mark Burgess, the 1st century Jewish political and religious movement called Zealotry was one of the first examples of the use of terrorism by Jews.[4] They sought to incite the people of Judaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from Israel by force of arms. The term Zealot, in Hebrew kanai, means one who is zealous on behalf of God.[5][6] The most extremist groups of Zealots were called Sicarii.[4] Sicarii used violent stealth tactics against Romans. Under their cloaks they concealed sicae, or small daggers, from which they received their name. At popular assemblies, particularly during the pilgrimage to the Temple Mount, they stabbed their enemies (Romans or Roman sympathizers, Herodians), lamenting ostentatiously after the deed to blend into the crowd to escape detection. In one account, given in the Talmud, Sicarii destroyed the city's food supply so that the people would be forced to fight against the Roman siege instead of negotiating peace. Sicarii also raided Jewish habitations and killed fellow Jews whom they considered apostates and collaborators.

Mmm, actually it doesn't. The link takes you to post 1948 Terrorism by Jews, Soren. You really need to get a proper browser rather than relying on your phone... Tsk, tsk, still mistaken. Roll Eyes

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Reply #65 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm

moses wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:25pm:

The proof is in the pudding.

Leftards rise in a frenzy of exculpations for global islamic terrorism.

They all prefer the bloodshed death and destruction caused and motivated by islamic doctrine, to a thorough examination of the evil in the qur'an.

Oh well it'll come as sure as the sun will rise and set.

The world will eventually get sick of the leftard backed islamic atrocities, then turn on the duo of evil (muslims and their apologists).

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #66 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 4:17pm

The Australian Government web site tells us.

Australian National Security listed terrorist groups

1. Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

2. Al-Murabitun

3. Al-Qa'ida (AQ)

4. Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

5. Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)

6. Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)

7. Al-Shabaab

8. Ansar al-Islam

9. Boko Haram

10. Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades

11. Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)

12. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan

13. Islamic State

14. Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)

15. Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)

16. Jabhat al-Nusra

17. Jaish-e-Mohammed

18. Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)

19. Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)

20. Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

21. Lashkar-e Jhangvi

22. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba

23. Palestinian Islamic Jihad

The muzzies seem to be pretty high on the database of listed terrorists by the Australian Government.

Yet the leftards prefer to wallow in the blood of innocent men women and children, rather than admit that islamic doctrine is a global threat right here/right now, the 21st century.

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Reply #67 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 5:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm:

moses wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:25pm:

The proof is in the pudding.

Leftards rise in a frenzy of exculpations for global islamic terrorism.

They all prefer the bloodshed death and destruction caused and motivated by islamic doctrine, to a thorough examination of the evil in the qur'an.

Oh well it'll come as sure as the sun will rise and set.

The world will eventually get sick of the leftard backed islamic atrocities, then turn on the duo of evil (muslims and their apologists).

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me bwian.

Why are YOU running away?

Just

answer my questions

, there's a good coward. Put some factual meat on those disingenuous bones bwian.
List all those Terrorist attacks, that took place in Australia. Cheesy

List all those terrorist attacks, you claim re O/S.
Then explain in answer to my other question why have the Jews been able to end and control this behaviour yet Muslims cannot. Cheesy

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 49394 Gender:	Re: Islam - the Left looks away. Reply #68 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:16pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. What Christian terrorists? What bible motivation? Is there no end to your faux parallels and baseless comparisons?
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Reply #69 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What Christian terrorists? What bible motivation? Is there no end to your faux parallels and baseless comparisons?

Oh, dear, now trying to ignore the reference I provided yesterday, in the other thread, Soren?

Such disingenuousness. Such foolishness. Forgotten Peter James Knight? He shot and killed a security guard at the East Melbourne Abortion Clinic which he attacked on 16 July 2001. He was motivated by Christian belief about the sanctity of life. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #70 - Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:52pm

Tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me bwian.

Why are YOU running away?

Just

answer my questions

, there's a good coward. Put some factual meat on those disingenuous bones bwian.
List all those Terrorist attacks, that took place in Australia. Cheesy

List all those terrorist attacks, you claim re O/S.
Then explain in answer to my other question why have the Jews been able to end and control this behaviour yet Muslims cannot. Cheesy

Come on bwian surely you need to have some credibility.
No? Grin

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Reply #71 - Jul 19^th, 2017 at 10:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What Christian terrorists? What bible motivation? Is there no end to your faux parallels and baseless comparisons?

Oh, dear, now trying to ignore the reference I provided yesterday, in the other thread, Soren?

Such disingenuousness. Such foolishness. Forgotten Peter James Knight? He shot and killed a security guard at the East Melbourne Abortion Clinic which he attacked on 16 July 2001. He was motivated by Christian belief about the sanctity of life. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

As your own reference says, "This incident is the only killing by an anti-abortion activist in Australia's history.

But in your mind there is some parallel between the worldwide islamic jihad and knight's crime? You think you have demonstrated something important that others have missed. You think you have somehow demonstrated that there is no difference between jihad and that single murder as far as the culpability of religions in concerned.

If so, you have the answe to why you are held in contempt and are seen as a complete, unalloyed idiot.

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Reply #72 - Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:42pm

Frank wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 10:31am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:48pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. So the zealot speaks who refuses to examine the role that The Bible plays in motivating and excusing Christian Terrorists. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

What Christian terrorists? What bible motivation? Is there no end to your faux parallels and baseless comparisons?

Oh, dear, now trying to ignore the reference I provided yesterday, in the other thread, Soren?

Such disingenuousness. Such foolishness. Forgotten Peter James Knight? He shot and killed a security guard at the East Melbourne Abortion Clinic which he attacked on 16 July 2001. He was motivated by Christian belief about the sanctity of life. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

As your own reference says, "This incident is the only killing by an anti-abortion activist in Australia's history.

But in your mind there is some parallel between the worldwide islamic jihad and knight's crime? You think you have demonstrated something important that others have missed. You think you have somehow demonstrated that there is no difference between jihad and that single murder as far as the culpability of religions in concerned.

Soren, both Islamist and Christian Terrorism are inspired by the wrong interpretations of the religions which underlay them.

Jihad, BTW, means literally "struggle". It does not mean "Terrorism". The MSM and lazy fools like yourself have perverted it's meaning in the minds of many people to mean "Terrorism". Were you aware that the Mujihadeen who fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan were undertaking their own personal Jihads? "Jihadis" is another perverted word. A person who takes up arms for religious reasons is referred to in Islamic teachings as a "Mujihadeen". I've known a Muslim woman who's first name was "Jihad". Given to her by her parents after a difficult delivery which was literally a "struggle". Jihad can be a physical, a religious or a mental struggle to achieve an objective. It can be peaceful, sometimes it can be violent, it all depends on the circumstances. If anything, is similar to the Christian concept of crusade which can be both a personal or an impersonal one.

Knight was inspired by Christianity. A bad, wrong interpretation of that teaching. Islamists are inspired by Islam. A bad, wrong interpretation of that teaching. See the similarity yet? Roll Eyes

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If so, you have the answe to why you are held in contempt and are seen as a complete, unalloyed idiot.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Nothing to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem insults. Move along folks, move along. Tsk, tsk. We always know when you're losing the argument, Soren 'cause you resort to your childish hurling of faeces. Roll Eyes

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Reply #73 - Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:08pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

Tsk tsk tsk oh dearie dearie me bwian.

Why are YOU running away?

Just

answer my questions

, there's a good coward. Put some factual meat on those disingenuous bones bwian.
List all those Terrorist attacks, that took place in Australia. Cheesy

List all those terrorist attacks, you claim re O/S.
Then explain in answer to my other question why have the Jews been able to end and control this behaviour yet Muslims cannot. Cheesy

Come on bwian surely you need to have some credibility.
No? Grin

As per usual bwian is just trying it on, he's got nothing as per usual. You're looking pretty bad there bwian...

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Reply #74 - Jul 19^th, 2017 at 3:10pm

Oh bwiaaaannnn

Grendel wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

LOL Bwian and co like to portray Christians as global terrorists threatening the world as we know it and that they carry out more terrorist acts than Muslims.

Now if that isn't delusional idiocy of the highest order, I don't know what is.

They have no credibilty.

As for Jewish Terrorism, yes there has been.

How many acts of Jewish global terrorism is taking place today. Isn't it true that the Jews themselves brought these extremists under control in a very short time bwian.

When will the Muslims do the same?

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