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Why isn't Israel allowed to protect its citizens?
Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:21am
 
The reaction to this by Palestinians is deplorable. Israel has done nothing other than to make the site more secure...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/23/middleeast/israeli-palestinian-jerusalem-secur...
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Re: Why isn't Israel allowed to protect its citizens?
Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:22pm
 
Because Israel is now a 'Business', not a 'people'.

The 'Empire' (business) of Islam is almost at an end.
Soon, Moslems will be an unarmed 'people' of disempowerment, just like the wandering Hebrews of old.

But Israel wishes to be the new 'Empire' and that means - Power First, People second.

But hey, once the Moslems do to the French, what the Germans did to the Jews.
The Italians will 'genocide' the Moslems and only 'Israel' will come to save them (because no-one else will) and whip Italy!

Israel + Islam = IstarI (Istari)
...the Star between the Pillars of Heaven (the Pearly Gate).



It's like a bad movie ain't it  Wink
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: Why isn't Israel allowed to protect its citizens?
Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

.....Israel is now a 'Business', not a 'people'.

The 'Empire' (business) of Islam is almost at an end.
Soon, Moslems will be an unarmed 'people' of disempowerment, just like the wandering Hebrews of old.







IMAGE
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"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.
WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!
Those dastardly Zionists!!
We want our land back."


/sarc off

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Why isn't Israel allowed to protect its citizens?
Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 7:51pm
 
Judaism is a Religion based upon the influence of Asia on the Middle-East.
Asia invented the concept of 'City' (hence 'citi-Zen').

Mohommedism is a Religion based upon the influence of Africa on the Middle-East.
Africa is all about 'the Land'

Hence why you have a near-Asian Middle-Eastern people following an African influenced Religion.
Hence why you have a near-African Middle-Eastern people following an Asian influenced Religion.

Now that's why you have Jews placing their religious right on the 'Holy City'.
Now that's why you have Moslems placing their religious right on the 'Holy Land'.

Of course, you have Moslems in 'cities' (and boy, do they get the crap blown out of themselves in those!)
and Jews on the 'lands'.

Have a look at the outline of the nation of Israel.
It is like a 'Dagger' into the back of the Empire of Islam.

The old 'Empire' of Islam will soon fail for good.
The new 'Empire' of Israel will rise for good.
Moslems will become the new 'homeless' people of the Middle-East.

Eventually though, its just a process of changes - that's all.


But remember, the Middle-East is not a Region of...
City, like in Asia
or
Land, like in Africa.
...it is TEMPLE.
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
Which ones ... the black people deported for racists reasons.

The ethnic cleansing of Africans in Israel


https://electronicintifada.net/content/ethnic-cleansing-africans-israel/15099
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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 6:22pm
 
Every nation on this planet has the right to defend its own citizen. All peoples on the planet have the right to self determination. It is when these two principles come into conflict that things start to get confusing.
After Israel declared its independence it sent letters to other member states of the United Nations seeking recognition. An example of these letters can be found on the Truman online Library.

It reads........
MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o'clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.
With full knowledge of the deep bond of sympathy which has existed and has been strengthened over the past thirty years between the Government of the United States and the Jewish people of Palestine, I have been authorized by the provisional government of the new state to tender this message and to express the hope that your government will recognize and will welcome Israel into the community of nations.
Very respectfully yours,
ELIAHU EPSTEIN
Agent, Provisional Government of Israel

Important points to note The General assembly resolution of November 29 1947 refers to resolution 181 The UN partition Plan.  In this Resolution the City of Jerusalem was not within the borders of Israel.  As such Jerusalem was not claimed as part of the “Unilateral Declaration of Independence” made by Israel.

Under international Law a state cannot expand its territory through war and no distinction is made as to whether the war was defensive or otherwise.  Under this provision Iraqi forces were forced to withdraw from Kuwait.
Therefore Jerusalem is quite correctly and legally referred to as occupied territory.

Also under international Law a people denied the right to self determination are considered to be acting in self defence if they take up arms to resist those who are denying them that right. When the U.S. Invaded Iraq and occupied it. Those that resisted the occupation were designated as insurgents not terrorist.  The resistant movements throughout Europe that resited Nazi occupation were not terrorist.

The Palestinians have every right to resist the occupation of their lands, also the establishment of illegal settlements on those lands. They do not have the right to attack innocent civilians. It is possible that the armed Israeli settlers those in the occupied territories could be considered either illegal combatants or agents of the occupation. However, members of the Military or security forces are part of the occupational force.

The mistake that you make is the belief that Jerusalem is part of Israel. It is not. It is occupied territory.  As such it comes under different rules

Oh! And just in case there is any confusion on this issue I in no way support or advocate the use of terrorism or violence.  I have simply pointed out the international Law and how it applies to people under military occupation.
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