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Reply #210 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:

I don't believe a word of it Bobby. When these raids happen with TV cameras everywhere, my bullshit political propaganda radar goes ballistic.

Let's see what charges, let alone convictions come out of it all.

After all, it's not as though Turdfull needs a distraction from Liberal disasters and political inertia, is it?

I too would advise caution on this one. Remember that young Indian doctor who proved not to be a terrorist after all, and how his false arrest caused no end of embarrassment to our security agencies, and how he ended up with a king's ransom in compensation?

There was nothing substantial on the news.

The cops must have some evidence.

Not enough to charge obviously. They even had to trot off to a Magistrate begging to be allowed to keep this four in custody without charge for a further 24 hours.

I think they can hold suspected terrorists for a week without charges
under some new laws.

Jayzuz you are a dopey bloke. Far king read!

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Police today sought and were granted permission by a magistrate to hold the men for a further 24 hours.

No details have yet been released about the arrested men, who are yet to be charged.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #211 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:26pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The cops must have some evidence.

Not necessarily.

Terrorism is a whole new ball-game in which it is enough for the security forces to move in on suspects upon even the weakest of suspicions. If these guys prove to be innocent, they will be released, but the police will have done their job in quarantining them while they investigate their guilt or innocence.

They'll find evidence -
they wouldn't have stepped up security at airports &
had the PM making speeches for no reason.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #212 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The cops must have some evidence.

Not necessarily.

Terrorism is a whole new ball-game in which it is enough for the security forces to move in on suspects upon even the weakest of suspicions. If these guys prove to be innocent, they will be released, but the police will have done their job in quarantining them while they investigate their guilt or innocence.

They'll find evidence -
they wouldn't have stepped up security at airports &
had the PM making speeches for no reason.

Oh.....there was a reason Bobby. More likely a political one, than any other.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #213 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

Why did we bring them here?

Because we did the right thing and gave 'everyone' the benefit of doubt or a 'fair go'.
They've had their 'fair go' and they have abused it.
It is totally right for Australia to give everyone that 'metre'.
But 'Moslems' have taken a 'mile'.

Now its time they should be banned.
Not because people fear it would be an 'Anti' or an 'Apartheid' or a 'Discrimination'.
But because it will be a 'responsibility' to 'all' Australians who come from around the world ...to get away from 'old problems'.

The Australian Govt - both ALP/NLP, will always take the 'weaker' stance because both parties can't REPRESENT Australia directly ...only the UK/USA.
They FEAR condemnation from the UK/USA because they didn't incorporate it (first?).

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #214 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

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Police today sought and were granted permission by a magistrate to hold the men for a further 24 hours.

No details have yet been released about the arrested men, who are yet to be charged.

Aussie - read this:

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tough-new-laws-aimed-at-terror-sus...

Lawyers have criticised tough new laws that could keep NSW terror suspects as young as 14 in custody for up to two weeks without charge.

The "investigative detention" legislation tabled in parliament on Wednesday represents a very dangerous overreach of police power, Australian Lawyers Alliance spokesman Greg Barns says.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #215 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

There are enough convictions to fill a special jail with Muslims.

A jail that will accommodate only the worst of the Muslims is now being built in NSW to stop them making forced conversions of other prisoners.

Hopefully the shower block has gas taps.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #216 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The cops must have some evidence.

Not necessarily.

Terrorism is a whole new ball-game in which it is enough for the security forces to move in on suspects upon even the weakest of suspicions. If these guys prove to be innocent, they will be released, but the police will have done their job in quarantining them while they investigate their guilt or innocence.

They'll find evidence -
they wouldn't have stepped up security at airports &
had the PM making speeches for no reason.

Oh.....there was a reason Bobby. More likely a political one, than any other.

Aussie - you're too cynical.
It doesn't work like that.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #217 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:25pm:

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Police today sought and were granted permission by a magistrate to hold the men for a further 24 hours.

No details have yet been released about the arrested men, who are yet to be charged.

Aussie - read this:

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tough-new-laws-aimed-at-terror-sus...

Lawyers have criticised tough new laws that could keep NSW terror suspects as young as 14 in custody for up to two weeks without charge.

The "investigative detention" legislation tabled in parliament on Wednesday represents a very dangerous overreach of police power, Australian Lawyers Alliance spokesman Greg Barns says.

No need to read it. Obviously, it is not Law (yet) otherwise the Cops had no reason to beg a Magistrate for a 24 hour extension today.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #218 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:32pm

All four men are being held at the Sydney Police Centre in Surry Hills.

The men can be held without charge for about a week.

During that time, police will search their homes for documents, computers and electronic devices in order to gather evidence and build a picture of the allegations against the group.

The searches are expected to last two to three days, and police say there is potential for further arrests.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane Reply #219 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:33pm Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:17pm: Why did we bring them here? They were put on the immigration list at the behest of the luvvies at UN headquarters to which we signed away our sovereign independence. And we've been following the UN's Leftwing agenda ever since.
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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #220 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

The cops must have some evidence.

Not necessarily.

Terrorism is a whole new ball-game in which it is enough for the security forces to move in on suspects upon even the weakest of suspicions. If these guys prove to be innocent, they will be released, but the police will have done their job in quarantining them while they investigate their guilt or innocence.

They'll find evidence -
they wouldn't have stepped up security at airports &
had the PM making speeches for no reason.

Oh.....there was a reason Bobby. More likely a political one, than any other.

Aussie - you're too cynical.
It doesn't work like that.

Of course not, you are right. They really did find weapons of mass destruction, didn't they, Bobby.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #221 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:36pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

All four men are being held at the Sydney Police Centre in Surry Hills.

The men can be held without charge for about a week.

During that time, police will search their homes for documents, computers and electronic devices in order to gather evidence and build a picture of the allegations against the group.

The searches are expected to last two to three days, and police say there is potential for further arrests.

Thanks -
I was right & Aussie should apologise to me:

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/07/30/terror-raid-facts-so-far/

Suspects can be held for a week without charge.

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #223 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

All four men are being held at the Sydney Police Centre in Surry Hills.

The men can be held without charge for about a week.

During that time, police will search their homes for documents, computers and electronic devices in order to gather evidence and build a picture of the allegations against the group.

The searches are expected to last two to three days, and police say there is potential for further arrests.

Thanks -
I was right & Aussie should apologise to me:

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/07/30/terror-raid-facts-so-far/

Suspects can be held for a week without charge.

So Bobby.....why did Plod beg for and get a 24 hour extension today?

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Re: Terror plot to bring down a plane
Reply #224 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:47pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

All four men are being held at the Sydney Police Centre in Surry Hills.

The men can be held without charge for about a week.

During that time, police will search their homes for documents, computers and electronic devices in order to gather evidence and build a picture of the allegations against the group.

The searches are expected to last two to three days, and police say there is potential for further arrests.

Thanks -
I was right & Aussie should apologise to me:

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/07/30/terror-raid-facts-so-far/

Suspects can be held for a week without charge.

So Bobby.....why did Plod beg for and get a 24 hour extension today?

Maybe a fake news item?

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