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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #15 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 10:30am

I'm just trying to understand your logic in defending Islam by insisting something is not in the Koran, while elsewhere you cite your own ignorance of Islam to justify your defence of the religion.

If you concede that the Koran contains daft things, then the fact that it would be daft for the Koran to say this is not a rational argument for why it is not in there.

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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #16 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

I's so glad this was consequenced.

It is an abomination that such things should happen.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv it, of course. Totally random abomination.

Bet there is nothing in the Koran which refers to this.

Sounds more tribal/cultural/social than religion based.

Sorta like revenge spearing among the aboriginals.

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ISLAMIC law [i.e. the following of ISLAM and the 'influence' of ISLAM] always informs the actions and the behaviour of any 'proper' moslem, and, the societal 'mores' which are evident witin every moslem majority nation.

That argument is made in this article.

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Pakistan Village Council Orders 'Revenge Rape' of 16-Year-Old Girl

By Rick Moran 2017-07-26

A Pakistani jirga (village council) ordered the rape of a 16-year-old girl in retaliation for a rape on a 12-year-old committed by the girl's cousin, according to police sources.

.....This isn't typical of Islam.

You're an Islamophobe if you try and connect what happened to the little girl, whose family agreed to watch her being raped, to the Islamic faith.

Islam is a religion of peace and love.

There's nothing in the Koran to justify this.

At least, that's the argument that will be made by Islam's apologists.

Indeed, I have no idea if such behavior is sanctioned by the Koran.

But no reasonably informed, rational person can deny that Islam informs and animates the lives of these people and even if there isn't a specific passage in the Koran that justifies it, Islam has its stamp all over this outrage.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/26/pakistan-village-council-orders-revenge-...

He makes the argument, that even if this appalling crime is       not explicitly    sanctioned within the Koran,          the moral RESPONSIBILITY for this appalling travesty of common justice       can be 'sheeted home' to ISLAM,             because Pakistan is a society that is overwhelmingly dominated by 1/ ISLAM, 2/ the influence of ISLAMIC law and by the influence of 3/ ISLAMIC cultural traditions.

TWO OBVIOUS Q's THAT ARISE FROM THIS INCIDENT....

1/ Why    DIDN'T    the Pakistani jirga (village council) choose to punish the rapist ?

2/ Why    DID       the Pakistani jirga (village council) choose to punish an innocent party [the rapists sister],       for a crime which was committed by another person [the rapist] ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #17 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:40pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

I's so glad this was consequenced.

It is an abomination that such things should happen.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv it, of course. Totally random abomination.

Bet there is nothing in the Koran which refers to this.

Sounds more tribal/cultural/social than religion based.

Sorta like revenge spearing among the aboriginals.

Where are the denunciations from all the TOP MULLAHS or all the top PROFESSORS OF SHARIA LAW ?

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mortimer says

July 28, 2017 at 8:20 am

Where are the denunciations from all the TOP MULLAHS or all the top PROFESSORS OF SHARIA LAW ?

They are silent. They all know that Islam is HOPELESSLY BACKWARD, STUCK in the 7th CENTURY and CANNOT BE REFORMED. Moreover, the mullahs and professors of Islamic studies all know better than anyone, that their lives will worthless and short after they speak out against NORMATIVE Sharia law punishments.

ISLAMIC BARBARITY CANNOT BE REFORMED, because that is the SUNNA–the sacred example–of Mohammed, the supposedly ‘perfect man’. RAPE is the SUNNA of MOHAMMED and enshrined in Koran 4.23.24......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/pakistan-girl-raped-in-front-of-family-for-br...

ISLAM is a wholly unjust and barbaric philosophy, imo.

And it is in large measure ISLAM's barbaric nature, which protects the ISLAMIC ideology from any influence of 'revision'.

Any honest [and informed] person knows what ISLAM is, and also knows that 'reform' of ISLAM is impossible.

ISLAMIC history is littered with the bodies of those moslems who dared to suggest, to fellow moslems, that they felt some aspect of ISLAM required 'change'.

Those moslems who walk down that 'mis-taken' path are very often killed by their own 'compatriots'.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 45769 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #18 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:16pm mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 10:26pm: I think the song has a lot of important lessons for you, Frank. Such as? What re-education do I need, Commissar Mothra?
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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #19 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

I's so glad this was consequenced.

It is an abomination that such things should happen.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv it, of course. Totally random abomination.

Bet there is nothing in the Koran which refers to this.

Sounds more tribal/cultural/social than religion based.

Sorta like revenge spearing among the aboriginals.

So then I want people like that in my country?
"Oh, it's not the Koran, they are primitive in a freelancing kinda way".
"Very well, let them all in then! We need more barbarians"

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38618 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #20 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:30pm Abos are already here......in case you have not noticed.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74417 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #21 - Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:35pm I find it hilarious that FD condemns the Koran for telling people to rape (according to him), but defends those that said the same thing about Yassmin Abdel-Magied as simply partaking of their right to free speech
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 45769 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #22 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 8:50am Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:30pm: Abos are already here......in case you have not noticed. So we do have enough barbarians of our own, no need to import others.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35368 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #23 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 10:31am Frank wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:16pm: mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 10:26pm: I think the song has a lot of important lessons for you, Frank. Such as? What re-education do I need, Commissar Mothra? You need even that explained to you?
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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #24 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 4:37pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 10:31am:

Frank wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 29^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

I think the song has a lot of important lessons for you, Frank.

Such as?

What re-education do I need, Commissar Mothra?

You need even that explained to you?

I only asked because I was sure you couldn't articulate it.
And so you couldn't.

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Re: Sentenced to be raped
Reply #25 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 5:56pm

Alas Frank. You'd best hope no-one else watched the youtube.

Because if they had, they'd be having quite the titter about you right now.

You will, as usual, miss the joke, ignore the opportunity to chill the hell out, get grumpy and insult me. Or someone else. Or both of us. And them some more people some more times.

It's our relationship. It's how you roll. And we wouldn't have you any other way, Old Bean.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 45769 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #26 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:54pm And so you can't articulate it.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35368 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #27 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 10:10pm
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35368 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #28 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:35am Can someone articulate this for Frank? He seems to be having problems understanding it. I can't. I'm laughing too hard:
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 45769 Gender:	Re: Sentenced to be raped Reply #29 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 7:28pm mothra wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 10:35am: Can someone articulate this for Frank? He seems to be having problems understanding it. I can't. I'm laughing too hard: That's not you, you thick, frightened, ignorant, tendentious little idiot. Do YOU have a voice of your own, you stupid little puppet? No.
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