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Reply #30 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm

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The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

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Reply #31 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

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Reply #32 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

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Reply #33 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

We should be selfish and take the people most beneficial to our society. People embuggerd by wahabisim, nup.

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Reply #34 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

We should be selfish and take the people most beneficial to our society. People embuggerd by wahabisim, nup.

See, Enoch Powell said that numbers matter. So, having 2% of the population as diverse is much different to 5% or 8%.

It's a tough one, Gordie.

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Reply #35 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

They have cars dude.
You honestly need to do a fact finding tour to SW Sydney and I'd gladly accompany you.

I just wonder why we need fundementally religious Muslims while the rest of society is turning away frome religion.

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Reply #36 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:07pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

Yep easy, ban Muslims till the stop blowing up teenage girls.

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Reply #37 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:10pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

They have cars dude.
You honestly need to do a fact finding tour to SW Sydney and I'd gladly accompany you.

I just wonder why we need fundementally religious Muslims while the rest of society is turning away frome religion.

Look, I take your point. I have never experienced something like that. I don't have any kids, either.

I'm not completely delusional to think that beliefs don't necessarily lead to actions.

I can't reconcile your point of view with my Libertarian views, Gordie. Help me out?

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Reply #38 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:11pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

Yep easy, ban Muslims till the stop blowing up teenage girls.

Incorrect, if you want to ban Muslims, then you have to ban everybody.

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Reply #39 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:17pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

They have cars dude.
You honestly need to do a fact finding tour to SW Sydney and I'd gladly accompany you.

I just wonder why we need fundementally religious Muslims while the rest of society is turning away frome religion.

Look, I take your point. I have never experienced something like that. I don't have any kids, either.

I'm not completely delusional to think that beliefs don't necessarily lead to actions.

I can't reconcile your point of view with my Libertarian views, Gordie. Help me out?

I'm also a centrist with both social and libertarian leanings on some things but increasingly I'm meeting lefties who are going very cold on Islam. Guess which ones.....yup, the ones who bump up against their hyper patriarchal inflexible and intolerant culture.

The tolerant tolerating the intolerant in the name of tolerance is just as stupid as that sentence sounds

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Reply #40 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:21pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:17pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

They have cars dude.
You honestly need to do a fact finding tour to SW Sydney and I'd gladly accompany you.

I just wonder why we need fundementally religious Muslims while the rest of society is turning away frome religion.

Look, I take your point. I have never experienced something like that. I don't have any kids, either.

I'm not completely delusional to think that beliefs don't necessarily lead to actions.

I can't reconcile your point of view with my Libertarian views, Gordie. Help me out?

I'm also a centrist with both social and libertarian leanings on some things but increasingly I'm meeting lefties who are going very cold on Islam. Guess which ones.....yup, the ones who bump up against their hyper patriarchal inflexible and intolerant culture.

The tolerant tolerating the intolerant in the name of tolerance is just as stupid as that sentence sounds

Between you and me, I think I'm becoming a conservative, only a little.

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Reply #41 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:25pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:11pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

Yep easy, ban Muslims till the stop blowing up teenage girls.

Incorrect, if you want to ban Muslims, then you have to ban everybody.

Is that because of political correctionism or some other sinister agenda.

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Reply #42 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:26pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:17pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Islam is a religion of apartheid.

Go to Lakemba and see the lack of women even enjoying sitting in a cafe. The cafes are chock full of men smoking, having animated conversations and eating sweets biscuits.

Hardly a woman in sight.

So? It's neither your business nor mine.

These men sneer at the sight of woman unucompanied by a man. It's my business on what our future society will be like. I have a daughter who will have to exist in the same city as these nut jobs. Do you?

Are you able to avoid Lakemba?

They have cars dude.
You honestly need to do a fact finding tour to SW Sydney and I'd gladly accompany you.

I just wonder why we need fundementally religious Muslims while the rest of society is turning away frome religion.

Look, I take your point. I have never experienced something like that. I don't have any kids, either.

I'm not completely delusional to think that beliefs don't necessarily lead to actions.

I can't reconcile your point of view with my Libertarian views, Gordie. Help me out?

I'm also a centrist with both social and libertarian leanings on some things but increasingly I'm meeting lefties who are going very cold on Islam. Guess which ones.....yup, the ones who bump up against their hyper patriarchal inflexible and intolerant culture.

The tolerant tolerating the intolerant in the name of tolerance is just as stupid as that sentence sounds

Between you and me, I think I'm becoming a conservative, only a little.

It happens with age. I used to kick around with the Greens, but back then they were actually environmentalists.

The thing is Caesar, Islam has been well and truly hijacked by wahhabism. It's in the mosques and schools and prayer halls. We're becoming more liberalism yet we're told we have to accept the most illiberal cultures on the planet?

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Reply #43 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:28pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:11pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

The right to choose to submit to the societal pressure of the most toxic for of islam, whaabism.

if that's what they choose, who are you to say otherwise? Or is democracy only good when you agree with the outcome?

Simple. Ban the immigration of ultra conservative Muslim nut jobs.

Ban Saudi trained imams.

Mmm. That's treading a very fine line.

What I would do, as a centrist position, is to significantly reduce immigration across the board; refugees more so. This way, it effects everyone, irrespective of race, religion or creed.

Which means that once the quota's up, and there's a bunch of persecuted Christian Syrians, we won't be able to take them.

You can't pick and choose: either everyone is affected, or no one is affected.

Yep easy, ban Muslims till the stop blowing up teenage girls.

Incorrect, if you want to ban Muslims, then you have to ban everybody.

Is that because of political correctionism or some other sinister agenda.

Neither. It's because we shouldn't pick and choose who gets what, or who has the right to what.

When it affects everybody, there's no discrimination.

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