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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #105 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Why do homosexuals want to get married anyway? They can already live together in a relationship, like "normal" couples who don't want to get married. The same Law covers them. Split and share everything.

It isn't "illegal" to live with somebody of the same sex, IF that is your thing.

I can live here with my dog or cat or pet fish and nobody gives a crap. However I don't want to stick a ring through the nose of my "pets". Cats, especially, often last longer than a marriage does. Grin

No it doesnt quite cover them.

How? Anyone who shacks up with their "partner". "lover" or whatever IS covered.

Please note the bit that states "who may be of the same or opposite sex"...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separat...

ame-sex couples and families are denied basic financial and work-related entitlements which opposite-sex couples and their families take for granted.

Same-sex couples are not guaranteed the right to take carer’s leave to look after a sick partner.

Same-sex couples have to spend more money on medical expenses than opposite-sex couples to enjoy the Medicare and PBS Safety Nets.

Same-sex couples are denied a wide range of tax concessions available to opposite-sex couples.

The same-sex partner of a federal government employee is denied access to certain superannuation and workers’ compensation death benefits available to an opposite-sex partner.

The same-sex partner of a defence force veteran is denied a range of pensions and concessions available to an opposite-sex partner.

Older same-sex couples will generally pay more than opposite-sex couples when entering aged care facilities.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #106 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

It is the MARRIAGE word .... Wink

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #107 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:13pm:

The only valid argument I've heard is in hospital in an emergency or end of life situation the SS partner of a patient can be excluded from decisions etc.

wasn't there also something about being excluded from access to a partners super after they pass away?

Yeah but only without a will in place. You could leave your super to a cane toad with a well written will.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #108 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

Refer to my original answer to aussie.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #109 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

It is the MARRIAGE word .... Wink

So smacking what? It's a bill.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #110 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:21pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

Refer to my original answer to aussie.

That answer you gave Aussie only works the basis that SSM plebiscite was the only issue the Australian public voted on.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #111 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Why do homosexuals want to get married anyway? They can already live together in a relationship, like "normal" couples who don't want to get married. The same Law covers them. Split and share everything.

It isn't "illegal" to live with somebody of the same sex, IF that is your thing.

I can live here with my dog or cat or pet fish and nobody gives a crap. However I don't want to stick a ring through the nose of my "pets". Cats, especially, often last longer than a marriage does. Grin

No it doesnt quite cover them.

How? Anyone who shacks up with their "partner". "lover" or whatever IS covered.

Please note the bit that states "who may be of the same or opposite sex"...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separat...

ame-sex couples and families are denied basic financial and work-related entitlements which opposite-sex couples and their families take for granted.

Same-sex couples are not guaranteed the right to take carer’s leave to look after a sick partner.

Same-sex couples have to spend more money on medical expenses than opposite-sex couples to enjoy the Medicare and PBS Safety Nets.

Same-sex couples are denied a wide range of tax concessions available to opposite-sex couples.

The same-sex partner of a federal government employee is denied access to certain superannuation and workers’ compensation death benefits available to an opposite-sex partner.

The same-sex partner of a defence force veteran is denied a range of pensions and concessions available to an opposite-sex partner.

Older same-sex couples will generally pay more than opposite-sex couples when entering aged care facilities.

ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP!

In any event, why does it bother you? Doesn't you cat like your boyfriend? Grin

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #112 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:25pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

Refer to my original answer to aussie.

That answer you gave Aussie only works the basis that SSM plebiscite was the only issue the Australian public voted on.

Which was what 'Aussie' also pointed out. This one is a farqwit, is all.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #113 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:25pm

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Why do homosexuals want to get married anyway? They can already live together in a relationship, like "normal" couples who don't want to get married. The same Law covers them. Split and share everything.

It isn't "illegal" to live with somebody of the same sex, IF that is your thing.

I can live here with my dog or cat or pet fish and nobody gives a crap. However I don't want to stick a ring through the nose of my "pets". Cats, especially, often last longer than a marriage does. Grin

No it doesnt quite cover them.

How? Anyone who shacks up with their "partner". "lover" or whatever IS covered.

Please note the bit that states "who may be of the same or opposite sex"...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separat...

ame-sex couples and families are denied basic financial and work-related entitlements which opposite-sex couples and their families take for granted.

Same-sex couples are not guaranteed the right to take carer’s leave to look after a sick partner.

Same-sex couples have to spend more money on medical expenses than opposite-sex couples to enjoy the Medicare and PBS Safety Nets.

Same-sex couples are denied a wide range of tax concessions available to opposite-sex couples.

The same-sex partner of a federal government employee is denied access to certain superannuation and workers’ compensation death benefits available to an opposite-sex partner.

The same-sex partner of a defence force veteran is denied a range of pensions and concessions available to an opposite-sex partner.

Older same-sex couples will generally pay more than opposite-sex couples when entering aged care facilities.

ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP!

In any event, why does it bother you? Doesn't you cat like your boyfriend? Grin

I'm sorry I posted that from the human rights commission.And in any event why does SSM bother you? Frankly it doesn't bother me, but I think I'm more libertarian than many of the claimed liberarians on here. What consenting couples do is none of my concern, and if we're supposedly a free country, everyone should be free to do what they essentially want without hurting anyone else.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74324 Gender:	Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM. Reply #114 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:26pm Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm: ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP! you've no friggen idea.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38558 Gender:	Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM. Reply #115 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:28pm John Smith wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:26pm: Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm: ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP! you've no friggen idea. I'm sure everyone at OzPol is totally shocked to read that!
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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #116 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:31pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 2:36pm:

The politicians in no way represent the general public, they are poofs living in an alternate universe. a free vote in parliament would be a farce and a kick in the guts for democracy.

Seriously? As Aussie said, they do that every single day voting on every single bill. Why is this bill so different?

Refer to my original answer to aussie.

That answer you gave Aussie only works the basis that SSM plebiscite was the only issue the Australian public voted on.

How do you know, I voted liberal for the first time in my life because of this issue , and possibly millions of others did to, it probably got them over the line. Poofs dust off your closets.

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Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM.
Reply #117 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:35pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:25pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Why do homosexuals want to get married anyway? They can already live together in a relationship, like "normal" couples who don't want to get married. The same Law covers them. Split and share everything.

It isn't "illegal" to live with somebody of the same sex, IF that is your thing.

I can live here with my dog or cat or pet fish and nobody gives a crap. However I don't want to stick a ring through the nose of my "pets". Cats, especially, often last longer than a marriage does. Grin

No it doesnt quite cover them.

How? Anyone who shacks up with their "partner". "lover" or whatever IS covered.

Please note the bit that states "who may be of the same or opposite sex"...

http://www.familycourt.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/fcoaweb/family-law-matters/separat...

ame-sex couples and families are denied basic financial and work-related entitlements which opposite-sex couples and their families take for granted.

Same-sex couples are not guaranteed the right to take carer’s leave to look after a sick partner.

Same-sex couples have to spend more money on medical expenses than opposite-sex couples to enjoy the Medicare and PBS Safety Nets.

Same-sex couples are denied a wide range of tax concessions available to opposite-sex couples.

The same-sex partner of a federal government employee is denied access to certain superannuation and workers’ compensation death benefits available to an opposite-sex partner.

The same-sex partner of a defence force veteran is denied a range of pensions and concessions available to an opposite-sex partner.

Older same-sex couples will generally pay more than opposite-sex couples when entering aged care facilities.

ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP!

In any event, why does it bother you? Doesn't you cat like your boyfriend? Grin

I'm sorry I posted that from the human rights commission.And in any event why does SSM bother you? Frankly it doesn't bother me, but I think I'm more libertarian than many of the claimed liberarians on here. What consenting couples do is none of my concern, and if we're supposedly a free country, everyone should be free to do what they essentially want without hurting anyone else.

I am a Libertarian as well and agree with you in the main. However, there are far more pressing concerns than whether homosexuals can/should get married.

Ask anybody and they will tell you that keeping cats indoors is a MAJOR concern and that there should be some legislation about it.

Tons of stuff that needs legislation to stop. Geeze. Nobody can smoke any more ... anywhere. I gave up years ago but ..... what next?

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM. Reply #118 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:38pm John Smith wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:26pm: Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm: ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP! you've no friggen idea. I love you too, Johnnie.
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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74324 Gender:	Re: Poofs are going to cross the floor on SSM. Reply #119 - Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:41pm Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:38pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:26pm: Neferti wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm: ABSOLUTE BULLCRAP! you've no friggen idea. I love you too, Johnnie.
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