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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136778 Gender:	This Shocked Me Aug 4^th, 2017 at 11:46am Teen Michelle Carter gets 15 months over texting-suicide case "You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like* I don't get why you aren't,"* Carter wrote in one text. She actually used the word 'like' in a text (Tragic story, by the way.)
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20542 Gordon Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #1 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:01pm
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136778 Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #2 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:08pm Gordon wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:01pm: Gotta love Moon Unit
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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #3 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:15pm I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35331 Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #4 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:20pm Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:15pm: I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO. She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?
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Reply #5 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:07pm

mothra wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.

She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?

My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.

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Reply #6 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.

She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?

My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.

That's the way I saw it too.

She called him 'babe'.

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Reply #7 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.

She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?

My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.

I'm inclined to agree. Highly possible it's part of a suicide pact.

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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #8 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:51pm I'd be very interested to hear your view......... http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35331 Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #9 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 2:05pm Thanks Alinta. Will check it out when i get home.
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Reply #10 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 6:30pm

Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:51pm:

I'd be very interested to hear your view.........

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/

Ok. watched it.

The first thing i want to say is 48 hrs grates on me. I've tried to watch it a few times over the years because i'm interested in true crime but it's just not objective. It's absolutely chockers with prejudicial information and begins by making a case, then presenting it, rather than just laying out the facts and letting the viewer form their own natural conclusion. You know pretty quickly, in other words, what they want you to think.

So, i watched it with that in mind.

The defence was preposterous. But then again, 48hours didn't really thresh it out, and they ridiculed it. Still, it was silly. Had she pled some sort of suicide pact, she would have had a defence. As it stands, it looks very much like she was using him to get attention.

Still, obviously not all the way sane herself, i reckon she knew exactly what she was doing but just couldn't really fathom the depth of the consequences. I think she started getting attention from people when she talked to them about er suicidal boyfriend but that was probably starting to get boring to her listeners. So she upped the ante.

Cold. Ice cold.

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Reply #11 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 7:03pm

mothra wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 1:51pm:

I'd be very interested to hear your view.........

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/

Ok. watched it.

The first thing i want to say is 48 hrs grates on me. I've tried to watch it a few times over the years because i'm interested in true crime but it's just not objective. It's absolutely chockers with prejudicial information and begins by making a case, then presenting it, rather than just laying out the facts and letting the viewer form their own natural conclusion. You know pretty quickly, in other words, what they want you to think.

So, i watched it with that in mind.

The defence was preposterous. But then again, 48hours didn't really thresh it out, and they ridiculed it. Still, it was silly. Had she pled some sort of suicide pact, she would have had a defence. As it stands, it looks very much like she was using him to get attention.

Still, obviously not all the way sane herself, i reckon she knew exactly what she was doing but just couldn't really fathom the depth of the consequences. I think she started getting attention from people when she talked to them about er suicidal boyfriend but that was probably starting to get boring to her listeners. So she upped the ante.

Cold. Ice cold.

Thanks for your response Mothra, I'm in agreement with all you've said here.

The point you make in relation to 48 Hours (or any other TV True Crime show) resonates strongly with me and is the primary reason that, whenever possible, I link such cases to the official court transcript.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35331 Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #12 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 7:16pm Alinta, you may find some of these podcasts interesting: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/truecrime/ I haven't actually listened to any of these but i've heard a fair bit of John Safran cover true crime. He approaches it for a really interesting angle. Anyway, i really resonate with his style.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20542 Gordon Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #13 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 7:30pm I trust you've listened to this? https://serialpodcast.org/season-one
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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10259 Gender:	Re: This Shocked Me Reply #14 - Aug 4^th, 2017 at 7:33pm This nastiness doesn't surprise me. Women are absolutely ruthless toward beta males.
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