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Reply #75 - Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Sure. It is possible to hate Arabs and Muslims. It is possible to be a black lesbian. But being black and being a lesbian are not the same thing. Get it?


I think I understand FD - you're saying that the bigot who attacks a tinted person in a hijab or a long beard can only be racist if he says "dirty arab" - and can never ever be racist if he says "dirty muslim". Is that the gist of it?


The gist of it is that Islam is not a race.


No, actually I'm genuinely interested in this question FD - do you think its ever possible for the slur "dirty muslim" to be racist?


Only to the extent that it is possible to say one thing and mean another.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
But since it is MY hatred it stands as I explained it. I want all religion wipe off the face of the earth and completely banned for human existence.  Smiley Smiley


How would you achieve this?
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Reply #76 - Aug 13th, 2017 at 9:15pm
 
Islam is NOT a race, people of all races can be Muslims...

SO NO confusing Islam or Muslims with a race or racial stereotypes is incorrect.

Now if I understand what FD has said and what you have said Gandalf why are you and others making this into something it needs not be. Cheesy
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Reply #77 - Aug 13th, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
The more you hate others, the more you hate yourself.

Grin Grin

The more others hate you, the more you are hated by others.
The more others are hated by you, the more you hate others.

The more you utter, kameel, the more others see you as a bloody fool.
The more you are yourself the les we take you seriously.
Dialectical materialism, innit, you sad old paki fool.
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Reply #78 - Aug 13th, 2017 at 11:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
The more you hate others, the more you hate yourself.

Grin Grin

The more others hate you, the more you are hated by others.
The more others are hated by you, the more you hate others.

The more you utter, kameel, the more others see you as a bloody fool.
The more you are yourself the les we take you seriously.
Dialectical materialism, innit, you sad old paki fool.



It is indeed. Keep drinking, dear boy. In vino veritas, eh?

And just remember how much we all love you, dear.
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Reply #79 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 8:56am
 
karnal=Dope innit Smiley
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Reply #80 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 10:03am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Sure. It is possible to hate Arabs and Muslims. It is possible to be a black lesbian. But being black and being a lesbian are not the same thing. Get it?


I think I understand FD - you're saying that the bigot who attacks a tinted person in a hijab or a long beard can only be racist if he says "dirty arab" - and can never ever be racist if he says "dirty muslim". Is that the gist of it?


The gist of it is that Islam is not a race.


No, actually I'm genuinely interested in this question FD - do you think its ever possible for the slur "dirty muslim" to be racist?


Only to the extent that it is possible to say one thing and mean another.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
But since it is MY hatred it stands as I explained it. I want all religion wipe off the face of the earth and completely banned for human existence.  Smiley Smiley


How would you achieve this?



You do realise at times, what a person wants and what a person can achieve isn't the same thing, doesn't stop them from wanting it though.


It would most certainly make the world a better place.

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Reply #81 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 10:42am
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 12:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 11:34am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
Thats fine karnal - see as long as you include the word "muslim" in your hate speech, - it cannot ever be racist. Sorry, wacist. What a loophole eh!



Hating mussie is no different to hating christians, neither are a race, but they are gullible delusional cretins.


Some people just hate the stupid and anyone and I mean anyone who believes in a glorified fkken tooth fairy needs to be hated for their stupidity.


Racism or phobia has nothing to do with it, it just a hatred of the stupid.  Smiley Smiley


Hate them.



Hate

Despise

Loathe

Deride

Spurn

Scorn


You get the gist.  Smiley Smiley



In the nicest possible way, of course.



No, not really


I have zero tolerance for stupid people, you may have noticed this yourself.




You might have noticed that wise people aren't constantly calling out people's stupidity and idiocy. The more you learn in life, the more you realise how little you know.

The more you hate others, the more you hate yourself.



Does believing in a myth / story / delusion as real, makes a person wise does it?

I do know that all religion is based on a fallacy, the universe does not exist because of a fkken fairy tale, and there in no evidence that would ever support this idiocy.

But if that changes and god is proven to be a scientific valid theory, then Im more than happy to apologise and wear the wrath of this entity. I doubt Ill be in too much trouble after Im dead.  Grin Grin


Hate is easy and doesn't take up too much of my time and everyone knows where I stand.  Smiley Smiley








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Reply #82 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 11:12am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Sure. It is possible to hate Arabs and Muslims. It is possible to be a black lesbian. But being black and being a lesbian are not the same thing. Get it?


I think I understand FD - you're saying that the bigot who attacks a tinted person in a hijab or a long beard can only be racist if he says "dirty arab" - and can never ever be racist if he says "dirty muslim". Is that the gist of it?


The gist of it is that Islam is not a race.


No, actually I'm genuinely interested in this question FD - do you think its ever possible for the slur "dirty muslim" to be racist?


Only to the extent that it is possible to say one thing and mean another.



I see, so you think that people can only be racist if they "mean" to be racist?
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Reply #83 - Aug 14th, 2017 at 10:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
The more you hate others, the more you hate yourself.

Grin Grin

The more others hate you, the more you are hated by others.
The more others are hated by you, the more you hate others.

The more you utter, kameel, the more others see you as a bloody fool.
The more you are yourself the les we take you seriously.
Dialectical materialism, innit, you sad old paki fool.



It is indeed. Keep drinking, dear boy. In vino veritas, eh?

And just remember how much we all love you, dear.

Yet you remain a sad paki fool.
Cheers.
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Reply #84 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 11:36am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 14th, 2017 at 10:03am:
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
But since it is MY hatred it stands as I explained it. I want all religion wipe off the face of the earth and completely banned for human existence.  Smiley Smiley


How would you achieve this?



You do realise at times, what a person wants and what a person can achieve isn't the same thing, doesn't stop them from wanting it though.


It would most certainly make the world a better place.



Then consider this as me asking what you want. How would you achieve this?

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 14th, 2017 at 11:12am:
freediver wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Sure. It is possible to hate Arabs and Muslims. It is possible to be a black lesbian. But being black and being a lesbian are not the same thing. Get it?


I think I understand FD - you're saying that the bigot who attacks a tinted person in a hijab or a long beard can only be racist if he says "dirty arab" - and can never ever be racist if he says "dirty muslim". Is that the gist of it?


The gist of it is that Islam is not a race.


No, actually I'm genuinely interested in this question FD - do you think its ever possible for the slur "dirty muslim" to be racist?


Only to the extent that it is possible to say one thing and mean another.



I see, so you think that people can only be racist if they "mean" to be racist?


I think you'll find that Islam's critics tend not to mince their words the way you and other Muslims do Gandalf. It should not be some inconceivable mystery to you why people are hostile to Islam.
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Reply #85 - Aug 15th, 2017 at 1:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 11:36am:
I think you'll find that Islam's critics tend not to mince their words the way you and other Muslims do Gandalf.


I agree FD, genuine critics of Islam the religion tend to refrain from slurs like "dirty muslim", and declaring that 100% of the male muslim population are so mentally retarded through inbreeding that they squat to pee. And for good reason, saying those things are widely seen as racist.

But I'm curious FD, when you say "the way you and other Muslims do", you are obviously referring to the fact that you believe I'm an anti-semite racist. In any case, you've certainly rabbitted on enough about how my racism is expressed through mealy mouthed 'word mincing', like referring to the Banu Qurayza as "warriors" etc. So apparently racists *DO* mince words right? If thats the case, why would it be so hard to accept that someone can be racist against tinted asians under the guise of being an "Islam critic".

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it should not be some inconceivable mystery to you why people are hostile to Islam.


Is it inconceivable to you that all this (justified) hostility towards Islam over recent years has emboldened actual racists and given them a good excuse to attack a particular type of tinted people - not because they have a legitimate hostility towards Islam, but because they hate tinted people - because they are racist?   

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Reply #86 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 11:32am
 
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But I'm curious FD, when you say "the way you and other Muslims do", you are obviously referring to the fact that you believe I'm an anti-semite racist. In any case, you've certainly rabbitted on enough about how my racism is expressed through mealy mouthed 'word mincing', like referring to the Banu Qurayza as "warriors" etc.


There are plenty of examples Gandalf. But yes, the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews is a classic, as are your efforts to put a positive, politically correct spin on your racist propaganda.

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So apparently racists *DO* mince words right?


Muslims do, because Islam is just as much a political movement as a religious one. Islam's strategy is to not confront people with the horrible truth about Islam, but to conceal it until it is too late.

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why would it be so hard to accept that someone can be racist against tinted asians under the guise of being an "Islam critic".


It's theoretically possible, but such people generally can't be bothered disguising what they think, the way Muslims do. If you suspect one here, feel free to point them out. I see this accusation made quite often, but it is usually just more hysterical victimhood mongering from Muslims and their apologists who will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid addressing what Islam's critics actually say. Far easier to cover your ears and scream racist, antifa style.

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Is it inconceivable to you that all this (justified) hostility towards Islam over recent years has emboldened actual racists and given them a good excuse to attack a particular type of tinted people - not because they have a legitimate hostility towards Islam, but because they hate tinted people - because they are racist?
   

There are plenty of racists jumping on the bandwagon. You can spot them by the swastikas tattooed on their forehead.
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Reply #87 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 4:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2017 at 11:32am:
There are plenty of racists jumping on the bandwagon. You can spot them by the swastikas tattooed on their forehead.


So would a nazi singling out a tinted woman with a hijab and shouting "filthy muslim scum" meet your criteria of 'racism'?
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Reply #88 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 4:52pm
 
He would be a racist, by virtue of being a Nazi. But if he chooses vanilla over chocolate that choice is not racist. Nor does it mean that he has no legitimate reason to despise Islam, or that his criticism is based on racism. He may well think she is scum by virtue of being a Muslim and everything that stands for. But it is your made up example, so you can make up whatever you want.

Why they extraordinary efforts to boil everything down to simplistic hysteria about racism?
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Reply #89 - Aug 17th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Why they extraordinary efforts to boil everything down to simplistic hysteria about racism?


Gosh FD, hysteria about racism? Some might think that screeching months and years on end about how "racist" it is to suggest that the mass execution of members of a 7th century tribe for breaking a treaty might be deemed justified by the standards and culture of the time - is a pretty good example of "simplistic hysteria about racism".

But what this is about is your stubborn refusal to acknowledge what is evident to blind Freddy: that mealy mouthed racists, who absolutely *ARE* terrified of being seen as racist,  have latched on to the anti-Islam bandwagon to feed their racism, with their favourite rejoinder "Islam is not a race"  merely being the latest incantation of the old "I'm not racist but..." excuse.

And the fact that you are the most hysterical whiner about racism - sorry wacism - here, when it concerns muslims and/or their apologists attacking jews, is just an interesting aside.
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