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Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ.
Reply #90 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:38am

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 8:27am:

Numerous polls have shown the majority want Marriage Equality.

None of the people objecting will be affected by it.

Howard didn’t call a plebiscite to change the Marriage Act.

A plebiscite is not binding, it is not a referendum. Why go through all the bitterness and divisiveness,

bulldust...

as in the Irish referendum

with a minority of voters...

(which was passed by the voters despite all that the bloody Church could do) why spend $180m—for a non–binding plebiscite

why hold 3 for the republic or even 1 for 4 year terms etc, etc, etc BS is full of BS...

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POLLS?

there are 13,500,000 Australians who can vote must have been a bloody big poll.

Only a Plebiscite will
1 show what most Australians truly think
2 give the decision the credibility it needs to be accepted by the majority.

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Reply #91 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:38am

miketrees wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:01am:

Seems like anything people want is "populist"

Why aren't the leftie regressives appalled and outraged by this populist call for same sex marriage?

Well said.

It's the Left sneering at Representative Democracy again. They would far prefer a One-Party socialist dictatorship of the sort the UN has always aspired to.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ. Reply #92 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:44am The lefties hate having a vote, it means they have to get off their arses and vote
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75295 Gender:	Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ. Reply #93 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:52am miketrees wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:44am: The lefties hate having a vote, it means they have to get off their arses and vote the right hate having to do what their constituents want .... it means upsetting their donors. Why not make the pleb binding and the objections to it disappear?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47927 Gender:	Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ. Reply #94 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am No way a plebiscite can be made binding. Just amend the Marriage Act already.
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Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ.
Reply #95 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:10am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 9:25am:

Only one poll that counts - Power To the People NOW!!

Send the troops into Parliament House and roust out the usurpers of the people's authority!! There is NO divine right of elected government to control every piece of legislation or regulation that takes into account the wishes of the majority of the people, and such has proven to be a disaster in the past for the majority in this nation.

I always find this line of argument amusing. DId we have plebiscites on other really important issues? Like going into WW2 or Vietnam or Iraq? Paying for the NBN? For the Snowy Mountains scheme. Why all of a sudden do we need one on SSM?

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ. Reply #96 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am: No way a plebiscite can be made binding. Just amend the Marriage Act already. Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.
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Reply #97 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #98 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

An expensive and bootless delaying tactic.

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Reply #99 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:18am

mothra wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

An expensive and bootless delaying tactic.

A postal vote takes labor out of the picture, smart move, once the people have spoken its all over, I know you lot will go down kicking and screaming, so be it.

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Reply #100 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:18am

mothra wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

An expensive and bootless delaying tactic.

Perzactly.

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Reply #101 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:20am

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

An expensive and bootless delaying tactic.

A postal vote takes labor out of the picture, smart move, once the people have spoken its all over, I know you lot will go down kicking and screaming, so be it.

Postal voting is free? No labour involved at all?

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Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ.
Reply #102 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:24am

Love the assumption people will vote against Marriage Equality.

Over 60% support it, according to a long series of polls.

The Irish referendum on ME passed despite all that the church could do.

The MPs should do their job and just vote the change the Marriage Act already.

Nobody’s life will be changed apart from those who want to marry somebody of the same sex as themselves.

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Reply #103 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:26am

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:18am:

mothra wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:06am:

No way a plebiscite can be made binding.

Just amend the Marriage Act already.

Most people want a say, why are you lot fighting tooth and nail to deny the people that right, I know, it is because ssm will get voted down in a big way.

No its because as Malcolm Farr and Phil Coorey said yesterday on INsiders, a call for a plebiscite is merely a delaying tactic.

An expensive and bootless delaying tactic.

A postal vote takes labor out of the picture, smart move, once the people have spoken its all over, I know you lot will go down kicking and screaming, so be it.

A postal vote is an even stupider idea

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Monday is possibly poof day for OZ. Reply #104 - Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:50am A postal vote is an even stupider idea Perzactly The thing is the lazy lefties will not bother posting a letter back
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