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Re: Women turn, can men do the same. ssm
Reply #30 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:11pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 9:45pm:
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Jasin wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 9:23pm:
I've heard many a nasty female admit to me or to others I know (who tell me) - that they 'invite' boyfriends to try anal on them, just to 'turn' them into poofs.

The last one of these females I came across I was involved with. Because I wasn't a backseat driver, well - things started going crazy after that and I was taken to court, etc, etc, blah, blah.

Yes, its quite common these days.

What is?


I'm guessing by what he posted, anal sex. I guess it's that equality thing. If men can bumf#@ck, we want it too!  Grin



i thought he was trying to imply that if you're into anal, you won't care whether you get it from a guy or a girl.  Cheesy Cheesy




Which is pretty bloody stupid but hey.
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Reply #31 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Ok I'll try to answer the question, since no one here seems less than infantile and ignorant in their approach to it.

If a man has a large enough sexual drive and is in a situation where women are unavailable I suggest that yes they can indeed be "turned"... at least until women once more become available or unless they discover they prefer sex with other men.

Take gaol for instance this is a place where men are without female company or access to heterosexual activities.

It has been shown that indeed some men do undergo changes in their sexual activities.

Increases in masturbation, and the need for access to pornographic material.  Further experimentation due to limited sexual activity.  Rape. Etc...

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Prison sexuality for males has been studied since the 1930s. Research is lacking on consensual sex because most research done has focused on coercion. Sexual abuse is more common among male inmates. Men sexually abuse others to establish dominance, power and to maintain their masculinity. Men who are physically weaker will offer consensual sex in exchange for protection, security, goods or support.

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and may not consider themselves bisexual. These men often describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women. They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.

A dominant sexual partner in prison is called "daddy" while their submissive partner is called "kid" or “girl”. The dominant partner has their mate take on the feminine role in order to feel more masculine and powerful.


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Some explanations for prison sexuality include the social constructionist theory by Groth. He implies that sexuality is not only an "inherent part" of a person but also that it may be a "construct of that person's society". Additionally, he mentions that you cannot classify the prisoners sexuality as heterosexual or homosexual during their prison time because it could not be accurate; their sexuality is on hold meanwhile because they act rather on personal needs than interpersonal needs. This, however does not fully conclude that this is the sole reason for prison relationships because they also feel the genuine connection that can turn into a serious relationship.

A similar perspective was penned by Donald Clemmer, who in 1940 theorized that inmates engaged in homosexual behavior partly as they, "were deprived of a heteronormative sexual identity". As sexuality has been historically separated into heterosexual, or homosexual categories, this deprivation model of an inmate satisfying their needs at the cost of changing from heterosexual to homosexual fits with the social constructionist theory.

In 1958, Gresham Sykes created the deprivation model. In this model, heterosexual inmates struggle with deprivation and create a prison subculture. Inmates are deprived of their sexual needs and desire some activity, resort to masturbation, consensual or coerced sex.

John Irwin & Donald Cressey created the importation model in 1962. With this model, inmates create a unique prison culture based on values from the outside. The social constructionist model is made up of social situations and values.


http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-gentlemans-guide-to-sex-in-prison-1634995425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#Male_prisoners

https://prisonwatchuk.com/2015/03/23/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-se...

http://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/


Good informative post Grendel.
But I think that justifying the 'Prison' as an excuse is a real 'cop' out.
I'm sure 'many' Hetero Prisoners do not 'need' to conduct themselves homosexually - even if it means they are picturing themselves with a woman in their minds.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #32 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:39pm
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:37pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Ok I'll try to answer the question, since no one here seems less than infantile and ignorant in their approach to it.

If a man has a large enough sexual drive and is in a situation where women are unavailable I suggest that yes they can indeed be "turned"... at least until women once more become available or unless they discover they prefer sex with other men.

Take gaol for instance this is a place where men are without female company or access to heterosexual activities.

It has been shown that indeed some men do undergo changes in their sexual activities.

Increases in masturbation, and the need for access to pornographic material.  Further experimentation due to limited sexual activity.  Rape. Etc...

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Prison sexuality for males has been studied since the 1930s. Research is lacking on consensual sex because most research done has focused on coercion. Sexual abuse is more common among male inmates. Men sexually abuse others to establish dominance, power and to maintain their masculinity. Men who are physically weaker will offer consensual sex in exchange for protection, security, goods or support.

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and may not consider themselves bisexual. These men often describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women. They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.

A dominant sexual partner in prison is called "daddy" while their submissive partner is called "kid" or “girl”. The dominant partner has their mate take on the feminine role in order to feel more masculine and powerful.


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Some explanations for prison sexuality include the social constructionist theory by Groth. He implies that sexuality is not only an "inherent part" of a person but also that it may be a "construct of that person's society". Additionally, he mentions that you cannot classify the prisoners sexuality as heterosexual or homosexual during their prison time because it could not be accurate; their sexuality is on hold meanwhile because they act rather on personal needs than interpersonal needs. This, however does not fully conclude that this is the sole reason for prison relationships because they also feel the genuine connection that can turn into a serious relationship.

A similar perspective was penned by Donald Clemmer, who in 1940 theorized that inmates engaged in homosexual behavior partly as they, "were deprived of a heteronormative sexual identity". As sexuality has been historically separated into heterosexual, or homosexual categories, this deprivation model of an inmate satisfying their needs at the cost of changing from heterosexual to homosexual fits with the social constructionist theory.

In 1958, Gresham Sykes created the deprivation model. In this model, heterosexual inmates struggle with deprivation and create a prison subculture. Inmates are deprived of their sexual needs and desire some activity, resort to masturbation, consensual or coerced sex.

John Irwin & Donald Cressey created the importation model in 1962. With this model, inmates create a unique prison culture based on values from the outside. The social constructionist model is made up of social situations and values.


http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-gentlemans-guide-to-sex-in-prison-1634995425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#Male_prisoners

https://prisonwatchuk.com/2015/03/23/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-se...

http://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/


Good informative post Grendel.
But I think that justifying the 'Prison' as an excuse is a real 'cop' out.
I'm sure 'many' Hetero Prisoners do not 'need' to conduct themselves homosexually - even if it means they are picturing themselves with a woman in their minds.  Roll Eyes



He's confusing sexual acts with sexuality.

It's a common mistake made by the homophobes.


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Reply #33 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Question un answered, can men turn into poofs, if so will ssm  turn Australia into a bunch of poofs.


is there anything anyone can do that will make you get a hard on when you see another bloke?



bump for jeez. You haven't answered me!
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Reply #34 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Question un answered, can men turn into poofs, if so will ssm  turn Australia into a bunch of poofs.


is there anything anyone can do that will make you get a hard on when you see another bloke?



bump for jeez. You haven't answered me!


The homophobes never answer that one, John.

They know they're backed into a corner.

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Reply #35 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 1:08pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Ok I'll try to answer the question, since no one here seems less than infantile and ignorant in their approach to it.

If a man has a large enough sexual drive and is in a situation where women are unavailable I suggest that yes they can indeed be "turned"... at least until women once more become available or unless they discover they prefer sex with other men.

Take gaol for instance this is a place where men are without female company or access to heterosexual activities.

It has been shown that indeed some men do undergo changes in their sexual activities.

Increases in masturbation, and the need for access to pornographic material.  Further experimentation due to limited sexual activity.  Rape. Etc...

Quote:
Prison sexuality for males has been studied since the 1930s. Research is lacking on consensual sex because most research done has focused on coercion. Sexual abuse is more common among male inmates. Men sexually abuse others to establish dominance, power and to maintain their masculinity. Men who are physically weaker will offer consensual sex in exchange for protection, security, goods or support.

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and may not consider themselves bisexual. These men often describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women. They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.

A dominant sexual partner in prison is called "daddy" while their submissive partner is called "kid" or “girl”. The dominant partner has their mate take on the feminine role in order to feel more masculine and powerful.


Quote:
Some explanations for prison sexuality include the social constructionist theory by Groth. He implies that sexuality is not only an "inherent part" of a person but also that it may be a "construct of that person's society". Additionally, he mentions that you cannot classify the prisoners sexuality as heterosexual or homosexual during their prison time because it could not be accurate; their sexuality is on hold meanwhile because they act rather on personal needs than interpersonal needs. This, however does not fully conclude that this is the sole reason for prison relationships because they also feel the genuine connection that can turn into a serious relationship.

A similar perspective was penned by Donald Clemmer, who in 1940 theorized that inmates engaged in homosexual behavior partly as they, "were deprived of a heteronormative sexual identity". As sexuality has been historically separated into heterosexual, or homosexual categories, this deprivation model of an inmate satisfying their needs at the cost of changing from heterosexual to homosexual fits with the social constructionist theory.

In 1958, Gresham Sykes created the deprivation model. In this model, heterosexual inmates struggle with deprivation and create a prison subculture. Inmates are deprived of their sexual needs and desire some activity, resort to masturbation, consensual or coerced sex.

John Irwin & Donald Cressey created the importation model in 1962. With this model, inmates create a unique prison culture based on values from the outside. The social constructionist model is made up of social situations and values.


http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-gentlemans-guide-to-sex-in-prison-1634995425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#Male_prisoners

https://prisonwatchuk.com/2015/03/23/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-se...

http://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/

Thanks for the answer Grendel.
Their it is in black and white and yellow, normalizing poofterism by way of ssm  can and will turn hard up men into poofs which in turn will turn more men into poofs.
This is not good for society, the most important society institution should not be altered for the sake of a few weirdo types.
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Reply #36 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 1:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Question un answered, can men turn into poofs, if so will ssm  turn Australia into a bunch of poofs.


is there anything anyone can do that will make you get a hard on when you see another bloke?



bump for jeez. You haven't answered me!

I have been attracted to the opposite sex since i was in about grade one primary school.
I am now in about grade fifty and set in my ways, their will  be no changing me.
On the other hand the yuppies growing up seeing homosexuality as normal by way of ssm may think and act differently.
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Reply #37 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
Jasin wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:37pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Ok I'll try to answer the question, since no one here seems less than infantile and ignorant in their approach to it.

If a man has a large enough sexual drive and is in a situation where women are unavailable I suggest that yes they can indeed be "turned"... at least until women once more become available or unless they discover they prefer sex with other men.

Take gaol for instance this is a place where men are without female company or access to heterosexual activities.

It has been shown that indeed some men do undergo changes in their sexual activities.

Increases in masturbation, and the need for access to pornographic material.  Further experimentation due to limited sexual activity.  Rape. Etc...

Quote:
Prison sexuality for males has been studied since the 1930s. Research is lacking on consensual sex because most research done has focused on coercion. Sexual abuse is more common among male inmates. Men sexually abuse others to establish dominance, power and to maintain their masculinity. Men who are physically weaker will offer consensual sex in exchange for protection, security, goods or support.

Heterosexual men in prison view their homosexual acts as being "situation specific" and may not consider themselves bisexual. These men often describe how they imagine being with a woman while taking part in sexual activity with a male inmate. During masturbation, they picture past sexual experiences with women. They take part in homosexual activity due to having no “heterosexual outlets”.

A dominant sexual partner in prison is called "daddy" while their submissive partner is called "kid" or “girl”. The dominant partner has their mate take on the feminine role in order to feel more masculine and powerful.


Quote:
Some explanations for prison sexuality include the social constructionist theory by Groth. He implies that sexuality is not only an "inherent part" of a person but also that it may be a "construct of that person's society". Additionally, he mentions that you cannot classify the prisoners sexuality as heterosexual or homosexual during their prison time because it could not be accurate; their sexuality is on hold meanwhile because they act rather on personal needs than interpersonal needs. This, however does not fully conclude that this is the sole reason for prison relationships because they also feel the genuine connection that can turn into a serious relationship.

A similar perspective was penned by Donald Clemmer, who in 1940 theorized that inmates engaged in homosexual behavior partly as they, "were deprived of a heteronormative sexual identity". As sexuality has been historically separated into heterosexual, or homosexual categories, this deprivation model of an inmate satisfying their needs at the cost of changing from heterosexual to homosexual fits with the social constructionist theory.

In 1958, Gresham Sykes created the deprivation model. In this model, heterosexual inmates struggle with deprivation and create a prison subculture. Inmates are deprived of their sexual needs and desire some activity, resort to masturbation, consensual or coerced sex.

John Irwin & Donald Cressey created the importation model in 1962. With this model, inmates create a unique prison culture based on values from the outside. The social constructionist model is made up of social situations and values.


http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-gentlemans-guide-to-sex-in-prison-1634995425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#Male_prisoners

https://prisonwatchuk.com/2015/03/23/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-se...

http://howardleague.org/news/prisonersexperiencesofsexinprison/


Good informative post Grendel.
But I think that justifying the 'Prison' as an excuse is a real 'cop' out.
I'm sure 'many' Hetero Prisoners do not 'need' to conduct themselves homosexually - even if it means they are picturing themselves with a woman in their minds.  Roll Eyes



He's confusing sexual acts with sexuality.

It's a common mistake made by the homophobes.



You need to shut up GWEGGY...  I'm not confusing anything.
Perhaps you'd like to tell the experts I quotes they are confused too eh.
I'm not homophobic either you gormless prat.
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Reply #38 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 7:58pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
You need to shut up GWEGGY... 


Oh dear.

Threats of violence from the Goose.

I'm very concerned now.

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Reply #39 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:50pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 1:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Johnnie wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Question un answered, can men turn into poofs, if so will ssm  turn Australia into a bunch of poofs.


is there anything anyone can do that will make you get a hard on when you see another bloke?



bump for jeez. You haven't answered me!

I have been attracted to the opposite sex since i was in about grade one primary school.
I am now in about grade fifty and set in my ways, their will  be no changing me.
On the other hand the yuppies growing up seeing homosexuality as normal by way of ssm may think and act differently.


so you think if in grade one you'd seen two gays kissing, you might have been attracted to them?
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Probably not.

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Reply #41 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Ok I'll try to answer the question, since no one here seems less than infantile and ignorant in their approach to it.

If a man has a large enough sexual drive and is in a situation where women are unavailable I suggest that yes they can indeed be "turned"... at least until women once more become available or unless they discover they prefer sex with other men.

Take gaol for instance this is a place where men are without female company or access to heterosexual activities.

It has been shown that indeed some men do undergo changes in their sexual activities.

Increases in masturbation, and the need for access to pornographic material.  Further experimentation due to limited sexual activity.  Rape. Etc...



You're confusing sexual acts with sexuality.

Nice try, though.



Not only that he is confusing sex with relationships

SSM is about the legal recognition of a same gender relationship.
It has nothing to do with sexual activities in prison
It will not make anyone "turn" as it really only affects existing relationships.
It will have absolutely no effect on heterosexuals so it is a mystery to me why the conservative right wing are so ignorant and hysterical about it.
The OP is a mindnumbingly stupid post.   
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