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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #225 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

A celibate heterosexual.

No such thing.

Incorrect.

Sexuality is about attraction, not action.

If naked women gives a man a boner, even though he's never had sex with one, he's heterosexual.

The clues's in the word SEXuality. Sexuality is a physical act between two (or more) people, it isn't just a physical response to external stimuli. Drooling because you're hungry isn't the same as eating.

Quite incorrect.

Oh, touche. What devastating repartee. Talk about Oscar Wilde.

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Reply #226 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

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I have no doubt you are. If you think that gays are the only 'sexuality' looking for a leg-up in the post sixties age of permissiveness; you've got your head up yo ur a.r.s.e.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please elaborate?

I'm not trying to be inflammatory or controversial. Since the '60's (especially in affluent, educated places) all sorts of lascivious behaviour has become more and more normalised in wesern societies.
There are other, dark, nefarious groups working with the gay lobby to find a voice. Pedophiles are one such group.

Homosexuals aren't dark and nefarious.

So, that's the end of your argument right there.

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #227 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation. A person could be attracted to women but never engage in the act of sex.

Sorry, was that a 'no, he's not heterosexual'?

Beg your pardon. No, he's not heterosexual, he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation.

Exactly.

Ergo, he/she is a celibate heterosexual.

No, he's just celibate. It's like your saying that a cat without stripes has invisible stripes. No, the cat without stripes, just doesn't have stripes

So, you're essentially saying that sexual attraction (which is a big part of sexuality) isn't biological?

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #229 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation. A person could be attracted to women but never engage in the act of sex.

Sorry, was that a 'no, he's not heterosexual'?

Beg your pardon. No, he's not heterosexual, he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation.

Exactly.

Ergo, he/she is a celibate heterosexual.

No, he's just celibate. It's like your saying that a cat without stripes has invisible stripes. No, the cat without stripes, just doesn't have stripes

Not having sex doesn't effect your sexuality, Hammer.

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #230 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:41pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

[ftp][/ftp]Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

The poll seems rather odd

The OP is about voting 'no' for the homo thing, but the poll only asks if you are going to vote yes or no and if you care about voting, not about voting for the homo thing.

Now obviously I don't vote for mindless horse sh1t reasons, so I said no, but I also don't care.

Should I change my vote?

Well, what your opinion on the 'homo thing' to use your brusque and uneducated terminology?

I truly cannot must a single fkk to give, nothing to do with me; don't care.

Mind you anything that stops a whinging minority form whinging about some bullsh1t or other, sometimes is not a bad thing. But they actually have to stop whinging.

So, if Chinese teenagers were being captured a sold into slavery, should they stop winging because it's 'only a minority?'

Your complete disregard for basic human rights and liberties is shocking.

Almost akin to the attitudes of Islamofascists.....

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Reply #231 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:42pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

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I have no doubt you are. If you think that gays are the only 'sexuality' looking for a leg-up in the post sixties age of permissiveness; you've got your head up yo ur a.r.s.e.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please elaborate?

I'm not trying to be inflammatory or controversial. Since the '60's (especially in affluent, educated places) all sorts of lascivious behaviour has become more and more normalised in wesern societies.
There are other, dark, nefarious groups working with the gay lobby to find a voice. Pedophiles are one such group.

Sexual liberation has never meant to be construed as condoning or permitting sexual acts against minors. Whilst there might a tiny minority who would promote such a thing, no rational human being in Australia or any other Western industrialised country would ever construe permitting to consenting adult men or women as extending to permitting to sexual acts with minors.

The 'slippery slope' argument just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Certain kinds of decadence are entrenched in the world wide web. Pete Townshend found out the hard way when he decided to do some research.

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #233 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

Quote:

I have no doubt you are. If you think that gays are the only 'sexuality' looking for a leg-up in the post sixties age of permissiveness; you've got your head up yo ur a.r.s.e.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please elaborate?

I'm not trying to be inflammatory or controversial. Since the '60's (especially in affluent, educated places) all sorts of lascivious behaviour has become more and more normalised in wesern societies.
There are other, dark, nefarious groups working with the gay lobby to find a voice. Pedophiles are one such group.

Sexual liberation has never meant to be construed as condoning or permitting sexual acts against minors. Whilst there might a tiny minority who would promote such a thing, no rational human being in Australia or any other Western industrialised country would ever construe permitting to consenting adult men or women as extending to permitting to sexual acts with minors.

The 'slippery slope' argument just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Certain kinds of decadence are entrenched in the world wide web. Pete Townshend found out the hard way when he decided to do some research.

Sure, so then I could make the same argument with those who oppose SSM? By stating that depriving a minority of their basic rights is a 'slippery slope' to totalitarianism and total autocratic control?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35465 Gender:	Re: VOTE NO!!!!! Reply #234 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian? And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making?
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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #235 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:45pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation. A person could be attracted to women but never engage in the act of sex.

Sorry, was that a 'no, he's not heterosexual'?

Beg your pardon. No, he's not heterosexual, he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation.

Exactly.

Ergo, he/she is a celibate heterosexual.

No, he's just celibate. It's like your saying that a cat without stripes has invisible stripes. No, the cat without stripes, just doesn't have stripes

So, you're essentially saying that sexual attraction (which is a big part of sexuality) isn't biological?

Of course sexual attraction is biological. However, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that much of our biology can be influenced by will. If Buddhist monks can control their heart rate, than humans can control, to some extent, their sexual desires.

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #236 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:45pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation. A person could be attracted to women but never engage in the act of sex.

Sorry, was that a 'no, he's not heterosexual'?

Beg your pardon. No, he's not heterosexual, he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation.

Exactly.

Ergo, he/she is a celibate heterosexual.

No, he's just celibate. It's like your saying that a cat without stripes has invisible stripes. No, the cat without stripes, just doesn't have stripes

Jesus, I'd love to look inside your brain.

Anyway, you believe that someone doesn't have a sexuality until they have sex.

So, consider this little scenario.

An 18 year old virgin male - we'll call him Bobby, for the sake of the argument - has spent the last 5 years jacking off to girly magazines. He gets a boner every time he sees a woman in a bikini, and he has never been even slightly interested in men.

Now, one day a violent (male) rapist - we'll call him Donald, for the sake of the argument - breaks into Bobby's house and rapes him.

Does Bobby now have a sexuality?

If so, what is it?

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Reply #237 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:47pm

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:14pm:

What if a heterosexual male never has sex in his life? Does that mean that he's not heterosexual?

Yes, it means he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation. A person could be attracted to women but never engage in the act of sex.

Sorry, was that a 'no, he's not heterosexual'?

Beg your pardon. No, he's not heterosexual, he's celibate.

Celibacy is not a sexual orientation.

Exactly.

Ergo, he/she is a celibate heterosexual.

No, he's just celibate. It's like your saying that a cat without stripes has invisible stripes. No, the cat without stripes, just doesn't have stripes

Not having sex doesn't effect your sexuality, Hammer.

Not if youve had sex, no. A murder doesn't cease to be a murderer just because he hasn't murdered for a while, either.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: VOTE NO!!!!! Reply #238 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm: Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian? And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making? I take it you're using the example of yourself as a woman who has only had sex with men up to that point?
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: VOTE NO!!!!! Reply #239 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm Quote: Not if youve had sex, no. A murder doesn't cease to be a murderer just because he hasn't murdered for a while, either. You seem to be dodging the question, Hammer. Murder is not biological, it's an act that is criminal by law. Sexuality is biological. Biology cannot be changed naturally.
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