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Reply #240 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian?

And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making?

I take it you're using the example of yourself as a woman who has only had sex with men up to that point?

If you like.

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Reply #241 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:51pm

Mr Hammer:

An 18 year old virgin male - we'll call him Bobby, for the sake of the argument - has spent the last 5 years jacking off to girly magazines. He gets a boner every time he sees a woman in a bikini, and he has never been even slightly interested in men.

Now, one day a violent (male) rapist - we'll call him Donald, for the sake of the argument - breaks into Bobby's house and rapes him.

Does Bobby now have a sexuality?

If so, what is it?

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: VOTE NO!!!!! Reply #242 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm Firstly, the masturbation argument. Simulating a sexual act is not the same as sex. It's like the difference between watching a game of football and playing a game of football. As opposed to the rape, no that is not Bobby's sexuality because the element of choice was taken out.
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Reply #243 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer:

An 18 year old virgin male - we'll call him Bobby, for the sake of the argument - has spent the last 5 years jacking off to girly magazines. He gets a boner every time he sees a woman in a bikini, and he has never been even slightly interested in men.

Now, one day a violent (male) rapist - we'll call him Donald, for the sake of the argument - breaks into Bobby's house and rapes him.

Does Bobby now have a sexuality?

If so, what is it?

Mr Hammer?

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Reply #244 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:56pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

[ftp][/ftp]Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

The poll seems rather odd

The OP is about voting 'no' for the homo thing, but the poll only asks if you are going to vote yes or no and if you care about voting, not about voting for the homo thing.

Now obviously I don't vote for mindless horse sh1t reasons, so I said no, but I also don't care.

Should I change my vote?

Well, what your opinion on the 'homo thing' to use your brusque and uneducated terminology?

I truly cannot must a single fkk to give, nothing to do with me; don't care.

Mind you anything that stops a whinging minority form whinging about some bullsh1t or other, sometimes is not a bad thing. But they actually have to stop whinging.

So, if Chinese teenagers were being captured a sold into slavery, should they stop winging because it's 'only a minority?'

Your complete disregard for basic human rights and liberties is shocking.

Almost akin to the attitudes of Islamofascists.....

That is seriously the most fkken stupid analogy any of you fkkheaded socialist have every presented to counter one of my posts. Grin

Not giving a fkk, is not giving a fkk, nothing more than that you hysterical fkken loon.

But if you want I could just pick the no side, for sh1ts and giggles, but that would mean i would have to register with the AEC and that just isn't going to happen.

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Reply #245 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:56pm

Isn't it interesting? The right criticize the left for engaging in 'identity politics' by claiming that biology is a social construct, but when it comes to SSM, they do the exact same thing.

They deny that sexuality and sexual attraction is biological.

Maybe because we, as a society, find it implausible that a man might abstain from sex even if he is attracted to women?

Wow, the right are actually more willing to cave to their baser instincts.

Freedom is partly about self-control.

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Reply #246 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

Firstly, the masturbation argument. Simulating a sexual act is not the same as sex. It's like the difference between watching a game of football and playing a game of football. As opposed to the rape, no that is not Bobby's sexuality because the element of choice was taken out.

What is Bobby's sexuality, after Donald has raped him?

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Reply #247 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:58pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

[ftp][/ftp]Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

The poll seems rather odd

The OP is about voting 'no' for the homo thing, but the poll only asks if you are going to vote yes or no and if you care about voting, not about voting for the homo thing.

Now obviously I don't vote for mindless horse sh1t reasons, so I said no, but I also don't care.

Should I change my vote?

Well, what your opinion on the 'homo thing' to use your brusque and uneducated terminology?

I truly cannot must a single fkk to give, nothing to do with me; don't care.

Mind you anything that stops a whinging minority form whinging about some bullsh1t or other, sometimes is not a bad thing. But they actually have to stop whinging.

So, if Chinese teenagers were being captured a sold into slavery, should they stop winging because it's 'only a minority?'

Your complete disregard for basic human rights and liberties is shocking.

Almost akin to the attitudes of Islamofascists.....

That is seriously the most fkken stupid analogy any of you fkkheaded socialist have every presented to counter one of my posts. Grin

Not giving a fkk, is not giving a fkk, nothing more than that you hysterical fkken loon.

But if you want I could just pick the no side, for sh1ts and giggles, but that would mean i would have to register with the AEC and that just isn't going to happen.

It's called Classical Liberalism.

I believe the phrase you're looking for is: "a person who is capable of thinking outside the square".

Why, thank you, Caesar!

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: VOTE NO!!!!! Reply #248 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:58pm You're trying to get me to say that nature is black and white. You'll never hear me say that. Psychology has proven that many 'urges' can be controlled and sexual urges are definitely controllable.
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Reply #249 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:59pm

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian?

And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making?

I take it you're using the example of yourself as a woman who has only had sex with men up to that point?

Then obviously, you're bisexual.

If you like.

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Reply #250 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

Firstly, the masturbation argument. Simulating a sexual act is not the same as sex. It's like the difference between watching a game of football and playing a game of football. As opposed to the rape, no that is not Bobby's sexuality because the element of choice was taken out.

What is Bobby's sexuality, after Donald has raped him?

As he is a virgin, he's celibate.

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Re: VOTE NO!!!!!
Reply #251 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:02pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:58pm:

You're trying to get me to say that nature is black and white. You'll never hear me say that. Psychology has proven that many 'urges' can be controlled and sexual urges are definitely controllable.

'Sexual urges' are quite different from sexuality. Sexual urges are psychological. Sexuality - the state of being attracted to the same or opposite sex is biological. It's certainly possible that a person could be attracted to both sexes at once; in either case it's biological.

So, do you believe that a transexual person (who has transitioned from female to male) is a female or a male?

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Reply #252 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:03pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:59pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian?

And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making?

I take it you're using the example of yourself as a woman who has only had sex with men up to that point?

Then obviously, you're bisexual.

If you like.

No. I'm not. I'm very heterosexual. But i have had sex with women.

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Reply #253 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:07pm

Mr Hammer: here's a different scenario.

In this one, Booby is making a choice.

An 18 year old virgin male - we'll call him Bobby, for the sake of the argument - has spent the last 5 years jacking off to girly magazines. He gets a boner every single time he sees a woman in a bikini, and he has never, ever been even slightly interested in men.

Now, one day a man - we'll call him Donald, for the sake of the argument - knocks on Bobby's front door and says: "Hi Bobby. I'm a billionaire, and I'd like to offer you a million dollars to let me have gay butt sex with you".

Now, Bobby loves the ladies, and the thought of having sex with a man repulses him, but he really, really needs the money.

So, he chooses to let Donald have freaky butt sex with him, all the time thinking about that girl on the Trivago ad.

Does Bobby have a sexuality after his little romp with Donald?

If so, what is it?

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Reply #254 - Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:09pm

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:59pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:49pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Hammer, if i have sex with a woman, am i automatically a lesbian?

And if so, am i only a lesbian for the duration of our love-making?

I take it you're using the example of yourself as a woman who has only had sex with men up to that point?

Then obviously, you're bisexual.

If you like.

No. I'm not. I'm very heterosexual. But i have had sex with women.

That's very strange, Mothra. I'm heterosexual but I have never considered nor would ever consider having sex with another male (or a female, if you believe as Aussie does that I'm woman).

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