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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74360 Gender:	Re: Hypocritical Labor supporters Reply #60 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Not struggling at all. I am just wondering why you think it's all about numbers. legislation is always about numbers. There is no point in pretending to introduce legislation when you know you haven't got the numbers to pass it.
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Reply #61 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:37pm

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Are you suggesting that the law does not recognise the marriage of a man and a woman if they don't have kids?

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Reply #62 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Are you suggesting that the law does not recognise the marriage of a man and a woman if they don't have kids?

He painted himself into a corner with that one Grin

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Reply #63 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 12:36pm:

matty wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 11:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

matty wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

but I would just like to know, all these Labor supporters and members saying that the government needs to act on the issue, where were all of you between 2007-2013?

does it matter? does that mean the libs can waste $200m?

These attempts at deflecting from Malcolms lack of testicular fortitude are pretty pathetic, even for you.

Yes it does matter because it smacks of hypocrisy.

The second part is a) ironic because you're the one deflecting and b) nonsensical because I have been nothing but a vocal critic of Malcolm since day dot.

there is no hypocrisy. Labor didn't have the numbers to pass the legislation when they were in government so there was little point in pursuing it. I realise you don't like reality but most of us live in the real world

So numbers in Parliament is what it's all about? Also Labor had 83 in the lower house from 2007-2010 so why didn't the left campaign for them to pass it?

not sure why you're struggling. Labor didn't have the numbers. Their are two houses legislation has to pass, not one.

Not struggling at all. I am just wondering why you think it's all about numbers.

Not to mention the fact that the Coalition does not have the numbers either. All of their MPs went to the election on a platform of a plebiscite and not a free vote.

but it's not just the numbers in the coalition. We both know parliament has the numbers to pass the legislation. If the libs believed they didn't have the numbers they would have allowed a conscience vote knowing it wouldn't pass.

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Reply #64 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 12:36pm:

matty wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 11:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

matty wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

but I would just like to know, all these Labor supporters and members saying that the government needs to act on the issue, where were all of you between 2007-2013?

does it matter? does that mean the libs can waste $200m?

These attempts at deflecting from Malcolms lack of testicular fortitude are pretty pathetic, even for you.

Yes it does matter because it smacks of hypocrisy.

The second part is a) ironic because you're the one deflecting and b) nonsensical because I have been nothing but a vocal critic of Malcolm since day dot.

there is no hypocrisy. Labor didn't have the numbers to pass the legislation when they were in government so there was little point in pursuing it. I realise you don't like reality but most of us live in the real world

So numbers in Parliament is what it's all about? Also Labor had 83 in the lower house from 2007-2010 so why didn't the left campaign for them to pass it?

Because this guy wouldn't allow it.

This wasn't a joke, by the way.

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Reply #65 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Are you suggesting that the law does not recognise the marriage of a man and a woman if they don't have kids?

He painted himself into a corner with that one Grin

No he didn't: gay marriage was never referred to as an institution because it didn't provide babies.

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Reply #66 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Married couples don't have to have children.

You do understand that, don't you?

That's not the point: the point is hetero marriage is an institution and gay marriage is not because in the first the possiblity of raising children exists and in the latter it does not!

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Reply #67 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:20pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Married couples don't have to have children.

You do understand that, don't you?

That's not the point: the point is hetero marriage is an institution and gay marriage is not because in the first the possiblity of raising children exists and in the latter it does not!

It's got nothing to do with children.

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Reply #68 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:31pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

Vic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

Was the issue raised in those years? I can't recall it being on the agenda anytime.

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Gillard - I do not support same sex marriage and will not make it legal

Plepbazerk - We dont support same sex marriage

Swan - We made it very clear that we don't support gay marriage

Wong - On the issue of marriage I think the reality is there is a cultural, religious, historical view around of which we have to respect.
The party's position is very clear that this is an institution that is between a man and a woman

Kevin Rudd has angered members of the gay community by saying he is opposed to homosexual marriage and refusing to be drawn on the question of gay couples adopting children.

Shorten who told church leaders before the 2013 election that a plebiscite would be a good way to resolve this issue

Just sayin Undecided

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Reply #70 - Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:34pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Married couples don't have to have children.

You do understand that, don't you?

That's not the point: the point is hetero marriage is an institution and gay marriage is not because in the first the possiblity of raising children exists and in the latter it does not!

Yes it does. Of course it does!

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Reply #71 - Aug 11^th, 2017 at 12:25am

mothra wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:34pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Married couples don't have to have children.

You do understand that, don't you?

That's not the point: the point is hetero marriage is an institution and gay marriage is not because in the first the possiblity of raising children exists and in the latter it does not!

Yes it does. Of course it does!

YEAH.!! You fellas obviously don't watch the free TV News. I was watching an interview between two married men ( yes- to each other) who had just produced a baby from their own bodies. One of the couple had extensive transgender treatment , and actually gave birth to this child.

SO it is.

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Reply #72 - Aug 11^th, 2017 at 12:36am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:31pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

Vic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:40pm:

Was the issue raised in those years? I can't recall it being on the agenda anytime.

Quote:

Gillard - I do not support same sex marriage and will not make it legal

Plepbazerk - We dont support same sex marriage

Swan - We made it very clear that we don't support gay marriage

Wong - On the issue of marriage I think the reality is there is a cultural, religious, historical view around of which we have to respect.
The party's position is very clear that this is an institution that is between a man and a woman

Kevin Rudd has angered members of the gay community by saying he is opposed to homosexual marriage and refusing to be drawn on the question of gay couples adopting children.

Shorten who told church leaders before the 2013 election that a plebiscite would be a good way to resolve this issue

Just sayin Undecided

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Hypocritical Labor supporters Reply #73 - Aug 11^th, 2017 at 9:31am LOL The Prog Left are a joke, especially on this.
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Reply #74 - Aug 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am

mothra wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:34pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

matty wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

I will accept homosexual couples as legitimate when a two dicks or two pussies can make a baby. Until then it is completely unnatural and despicable to knowingly deprive a child of a mother and father.

Married couples don't have to have children.

You do understand that, don't you?

That's not the point: the point is hetero marriage is an institution and gay marriage is not because in the first the possiblity of raising children exists and in the latter it does not!

Yes it does. Of course it does!

Yes, of course it does (even though it's completely irrelevant).

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