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Reply #270 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 4:33pm:

You are an idiot. We have laws and a constitution for a reason. Reasons that clearly you are incapable of understanding. And here you are literally criticising a judge for following the law instead of 'his heart'

You are an idiot.

dear Longy,
can you please refrain from ad hominem attacks?

Sure.. if you stop posting like a moron that deserves it.

Classic

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Reply #271 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

I stand by my logical, cogent argument:

Longy,
there was no evidence that any of the aforesaid politicians
were in any way compromising Australia's interests for those
of a foreign country.
The fact is that they definitely weren't and therefore
the judges acted by following the letter of the law
with no regard to the actual circumstances.

It is obviously in our best interests to have a stable Govt.
and so the pollys should have been allowed to continue in their
positions as long as they rescinded their dual nationality.

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Reply #273 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:24pm:

Our high court got it exactly right.

There was no way to put any other interpretation on it. It is a very simple rule that clearly states what it means.

Except that NZ is not a foreign power and our head of State is the same person - the Queen.

The Australia act (1986) (or before) determined Australia to be a sovereign state. Anyone else is a foreign power.

Australia's HOS is different from that of the UK or NZ. The Queen of Australia is the person who can act as Australia's HOS. This is a different position to the Queen of NZ - OR England etc.

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Reply #274 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:24pm:

Our high court got it exactly right.

There was no way to put any other interpretation on it. It is a very simple rule that clearly states what it means.

Except that NZ is not a foreign power and our head of State is the same person - the Queen.

The Australia act (1986) (or before) determined Australia to be a sovereign state. Anyone else is a foreign power.

Australia's HOS is different from that of the UK or NZ. The Queen of Australia is the person who can act as Australia's HOS. This is a different position to the Queen of NZ - OR England etc.

Come on - our High Court has not acted in our interests.

They are a big failure.

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Reply #275 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Also - I'm sure the American Supreme Court would have had the outcome I have chosen.

It's a better court.

US election qualification is a mess, every state has its own rules and methods.

I doubt that the High court of the USA would overturn any of their rules.

A little more reading shows that in the US the court does not have Jurisdiction , the senate gets to rule on its own membership.

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Reply #276 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:24pm:

Our high court got it exactly right.

There was no way to put any other interpretation on it. It is a very simple rule that clearly states what it means.

Except that NZ is not a foreign power and our head of State is the same person - the Queen.

The Australia act (1986) (or before) determined Australia to be a sovereign state. Anyone else is a foreign power.

Australia's HOS is different from that of the UK or NZ. The Queen of Australia is the person who can act as Australia's HOS. This is a different position to the Queen of NZ - OR England etc.

Come on - our High Court has not acted in our interests.

They are a big failure.

The court made the correct decision. Any fault has to go to the members who failed to properly fill out their forms and the party's that failed to ensure that they did.

The high court upholding our laws and our constitution is acting in our interests. Any other finding would have been corrupt.

Having a high court that bends with political pressure or sways with the breeze would not be good for Australia.

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Reply #277 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

The court made the correct decision. Any fault has to go to the members who failed to properly fill out their forms and the party's that failed to ensure that they did.

The high court upholding our laws and our constitution is acting in our interests. Any other finding would have been corrupt.

Having a high court that bends with political pressure or sways with the breeze would not be good for Australia.

We must agree to disagree.
The law should be a living document -
able to change with the times -
otherwise we'd still be stoning people to death for adultery.

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Reply #278 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 9:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

The court made the correct decision. Any fault has to go to the members who failed to properly fill out their forms and the party's that failed to ensure that they did.

The high court upholding our laws and our constitution is acting in our interests. Any other finding would have been corrupt.

Having a high court that bends with political pressure or sways with the breeze would not be good for Australia.

We must agree to disagree.
The law should be a living document -
able to change with the times -
otherwise we'd still be stoning people to death for adultery.

We do not allow dual citizens in our parliament, I think that is a good rule that nobody is looking to change.

If there is a little pain associated with people being too stupid to check properly well that isn't much more than a guide that identifies people who should not be there anyway. People who want to represent should take the process seriously. These rules are not a surprise, they are well documented and the advice on how to correctly fulfil the responsibility is readily available.

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Reply #279 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

I stand by my logical, cogent argument:

Longy,
there was no evidence that any of the aforesaid politicians
were in any way compromising Australia's interests for those
of a foreign country.
The fact is that they definitely weren't and therefore
the judges acted by following the letter of the law
with no regard to the actual circumstances.

It is obviously in our best interests to have a stable Govt.
and so the pollys should have been allowed to continue in their
positions as long as they rescinded their dual nationality.

So your argument is that committing a crime should be allowed as long as it can be shown it has no negative effects???

seriously, your level of stupidity approaches that of Trump. He knows little about everything and you dont sound much more informed.

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Reply #280 - Nov 5^th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:

The court made the correct decision. Any fault has to go to the members who failed to properly fill out their forms and the party's that failed to ensure that they did.

The high court upholding our laws and our constitution is acting in our interests. Any other finding would have been corrupt.

Having a high court that bends with political pressure or sways with the breeze would not be good for Australia.

We must agree to disagree.
The law should be a living document -
able to change with the times -
otherwise we'd still be stoning people to death for adultery.

It is. It can be changed. It HAS been changed. But in news to you... those changes are made by... VOTERS.

Ever heard of them?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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