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Reply #30 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 6:29am
 
Earlier Monday, Mr Shorten hit back at critics and declared he was not a “secret English agent”.  Grin

“I am fully aware that the Government is desperately trying to peddle its newest conspiracy, that I am a secret English agent,” he said.

“The reality is that no, I am not. I renounced my citizenship in 2006 — there is no whiff of evidence of anything to the contrary.”

Liberal MP Craig Kelly, who supports the crossbench idea of an audit of all members, said Mr Shorten owed it to the Australian people to reveal his documentation.

The Government has rejected the idea of an audit  Undecided, (now why would that be ???)
with ministers arguing over the past week MPs should be trusted to do the right thing.

Mr Shorten said there was no cloud over any Labor MP. do keep trying rightards  Cheesy

He said the Prime Minister needed to explain why he let one minister, Matt Canavan, stand down over his Constitutional eligibility while two others, Barnaby Joyce and Fiona Nash, remained in Cabinet.

Fiona Nash announced she is a dual citizen to the Senate.
Fiona Nash announced she is a dual citizen to the Senate.Source:Supplied
The ministers should be put on the interchange bench and debates on controversial legislation in Parliament set aside until the High Court adjudicated on the citizenship cases, he said.

“We can’t have the Government frozen like a wallaby in the headlights — we have to park the eligibility conversation,” Mr Shorten said.

Labor MP Peter Khalil, who was born in Melbourne to parents who came from Egypt in 1970, said the party’s processes ahead of his 2016 election campaign were thorough.

“We had two lawyers go into all of my details, going to my parents, my grandparents, contact embassies and consulates and make absolutely sure I’m eligible,” he said.

“I’ve got all the documentation.”

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Reply #31 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 7:19am
 
Distressed LW is doing the rounds of all the TOPICS and pumping out the FAKE MALE at a furious rate.

LW U wood be better off letting the unelectable Bull S. expire and be replaced by the much better much less corrupt Albo Sneezy.
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Reply #32 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 7:46am
 
Oh LW, just when you thought it was safe to go out it doesn't rain but it pours, as a whole stack of Labor pollies are fingered as duals!!!!!


Political perfidy prevails in parliament
“I swear to uphold my right to the trough of plenty above all else.”

While it is yet another blow to the practitioners of the “noble profession” it comes as no surprise to many that the “noble” ones have soiled themselves in their own nests on a regular basis.

None more so than in the dual citizenship intrigue. Some of us mere plebes of Heinz 57 varieties may also hold rights in as many countries—and to pensions? “Dear Queen of Denmark, it has come to my attention that I could be…..

To be on Australia’s ‘honour roll’ of federal parliamentarians is to be consigned to historical obscurity.

Forsaken at Part Six, page 424, of the illuminating but seldom read Parliamentary Handbook, are the names of each and every member and senator who has graced — or even disgraced — the leather benches of the nation’s Parliament since 1901. To date, there have been 1766 of them. Or have there?

The Federal Government has raised questions over the citizenship status of a number of Labor MPs, including Susan Lamb, Justine Keay, Maria Vamvakinou and Tony Zappia.


If Labor was behind this dual farcical distraction it looks like it will backfire on them.

Undoubtedly, to restore national confidence in our parliament, a Royal Commission or the like needs to be initiated post haste.

The current situation gravely affects what is left of any confidence in our government and requires urgent actions to cleanse the parliament of those who fail to meet ALL the requirements necessary to become a Member of Parliament.


http://morningmail.org/political-perfidy-prevails-parliament/#more-65888
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Reply #33 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 7:48am
 
And here is the ABC article referred to.

And as it is from the Lefty ABC it MUST be correct.




The shrinking '1766 Club': How low could this constitutional mess see it go?
By national affairs correspondent Greg Jennett Posted about 2 hours ago

We are yet to find out how many more parliamentarians will be struck from the ranks.

To be on Australia's 'honour roll' of federal parliamentarians is to be consigned to historical obscurity.


Forsaken at Part Six, page 424, of the illuminating but seldom read Parliamentary Handbook, are the names of each and every member and senator who has graced — or even disgraced — the leather benches of the nation's Parliament since 1901.

To date, there have been 1766 of them. Or have there?

Had history played out differently, the current dual citizenship saga might not be happening.
The sudden spate of politicians tripping up on the constitution raises the definite possibility that dozens, probably hundreds of them have slid through their careers — including ministerial ones — in perfect breach of the ground rules for eligibility.

As the Parliamentary Handbook records, the number of politicians scrubbed out in 116 years is very small and most of the cases are quite recent — Heather Hill (1999), Robert Wood (1988), Rod Culleton (2017) and Bob Day (2017) — with Barnaby Joyce, Fiona Nash, Matt Canavan, Nick Xenophon, Malcolm Roberts, Greens' Scott Ludlam and Larissa Waters more recent additions to their ranks.

It beggars belief that in more than a century of Federation there might not be many more who sat, wittingly or unwittingly, in political perfidy for years.

The trouble is, short of unleashing some special commission into historical constitutional connivances — and who could ever think that a good use of taxpayers' money when we're $350 billion in debt? — we will never know what ghosts of illegitimate careers have haunted our national Parliament, let alone how they changed the course of history by decisions made in their time there.

Beware the 'birthers'
From their obscure political graves, former MPs might pity the current crop of politicians in the 45th Parliament who are not only in collision with the constitution, they are arguably the first batch to be caught in a collision between analogue and digital record-keeping.

Thanks to the internet, clues about an MPs' heritage can easily be searched online, triggering a race between energetic journalists and political staffers eager to unmask Parliament's next suspected unlawful dual citizen.

Who's who in this mess?
It can be hard to keep up with what's happening in the dual-citizenship scandal, so here's a quick rundown of who's affected — and how.
Almost a century of electronically scanned passenger departure cards can now be searched through UK archives alone — a technique used to raise early alarms about Senator Roberts' status.

Unfortunately for the nation, online ancestry searches are generating enough "heat" for suspicion, but they do not yield the bright glare of fact needed to convince us or the High Court that an MP or senator is in the clear.

Those facts remain locked behind privacy rules and in old fashioned "analogue" citizenship registers of foreign countries — which is giving rise to a "birther" movement in Australian politics, demanding Obama-like documentary evidence to prove where their allegiance lies.

Only a small number of the 224 parliamentarians remaining (the two Greens have already left) have released documents or receipts confirming a foreign citizenship has been surrendered — the rest rely on self-satisfaction that they cannot possibly be a dual citizen, or simply adopt a "trust me, I'm not" approach to an query.

Trust them? We'll have to
It does not clear the cloud hanging over the Parliament, but the "trust me, I'm not" approach is the one "birthers" and the rest of us will have to accept.

The constitution's comedic timing
Someone has switched Section 44 to "evil". And if this most recent citizenship affair proves anything, it's that paperwork can be a bitch, writes Annabel Crabb.
An individual's citizenship status depends on personal histories only they can know, together with documents more likely to sit in scrap books and shoe boxes than on any computer.

Without documentary evidence, the burden of proof lands impossibly on political opponents or the media to demonstrate otherwise.

All of this means we cannot assume the High Court's ruling on the Ludlam, Waters, Canavan, Roberts, Joyce, Nash and Xenophon cases will necessarily be the last Section 44 and the 45th Parliament.

If it turns out we should not have trusted an MP who later discovered a dual citizenship, for consistency's sake they too should have to be adjudicated on, even if the court adopts a more generous and modern interpretation of the 'foreign allegiance' section later this year.

Fess up beats cover up
Far better that every possible case, especially borderline ambiguous ones, be revealed now — and with documents if necessary — to cleanse the Parliament once and for all.

Read the distressing rest as Bull S. ducks and weaves here

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-22/1766-club-how-low-could-the-constitutional...
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Reply #34 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley
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Reply #35 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:26am
 
It is quite clear that the major Parties, the Parties of government, have done the right thing and vetted their candidates. Fringe Parties like NXT/ON/Grn/Nat have not.
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Reply #36 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:31am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley

Your problem is lack of knowledge.

There is nothing to be sorted concerning the citizenship of Joyce.  He disclosed (not that he had any choice given he had been fingered by the NZ High Commission) that he had NZ citizenship.

Shorten is not in that boat.  He said he renounced many years ago.
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Reply #37 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:33am
 
And keeping Lib supporters tied up as to whether he is a Pom or not will keep them distracted.
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Reply #38 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:35am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:33am:
And keeping Lib supporters tied up as to whether he is a Pom or not will keep them distracted.


Quite.  Let the voters decide who comes out better from this distraction.
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Reply #39 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:50am
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:31am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley

Your problem is lack of knowledge.

There is nothing to be sorted concerning the citizenship of Joyce.  He disclosed (not that he had any choice given he had been fingered by the NZ High Commission) that he had NZ citizenship.

Shorten is not in that boat.  He said he renounced many years ago.


So he says. He hasn't produced any proof whatsoever. Are we supposed to just take the rapists' word for it?
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Reply #40 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:55am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley



I agree - so as soon as Joyce and the rest of the Coalition under the same cloud step down, steps down, I will join you in the campaign for Shorten to do the same
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Reply #41 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 11:43am
 
Labor vettes it's candidates , the facts are , libtards don't
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Reply #42 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
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Are we supposed to just take the rapists' word for it?


If that is going to be the standard of your contribution, you better hope that some retard comes along to 'talk' to you.  I'm out.
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Reply #43 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 1:53pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:31am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley

Your problem is lack of knowledge.

There is nothing to be sorted concerning the citizenship of Joyce.  He disclosed (not that he had any choice given he had been fingered by the NZ High Commission) that he had NZ citizenship.

Shorten is not in that boat.  He said he renounced many years ago.


And we have no reason to believe otherwise  Smiley
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Reply #44 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 1:53pm
 
Vic wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 22nd, 2017 at 10:18am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 21st, 2017 at 10:23am:
he says that he's denounced this citizenship ..

he's not going to provide any evidence that he has...

he wants us to "take his word for it"   Grin

fair dinkum...

this rapist is more crooked than Thompson and Gillard... and he wants us to "take his word" for it??

get ****** idiot...  Angry


If Barnaby Joyce must stand down until his citizenship is sorted, so must Bull Shitten until he produces proof of his citizenship status. Smiley



I agree - so as soon as Joyce and the rest of the Coalition under the same cloud step down, steps down, I will join you in the campaign for Shorten to do the same


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