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Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm

It has finally happened. In an effort to defend Muslims, the apologists are now declaring it is also wrong to criticise Nazis.

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

John went on to spend several pages pretending he did not say this, and that he was talking about jailing people rather than criticising them. He now refuses to give a straight answer, but continues to post endless deflections:

John Smith wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 1:16pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 1:09pm:

You are confused John. You did not answer my question before I asked it.

Sure I did.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:41pm

you actually debate with JS.. more fool you...he usually debates the person..under pressure he gets quite spiteful..

are not Nazis White Supremacists? these days.

at least thats what I thought.....

anything fd that is EXTREME and full of HATE for anyone who doesnt think like they do...

should be criticised....yep even jailed...I havent seen these guys chopping off heads yet..but who knows!

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Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

He said that we shouldn't criticize Nazis until they openly reveal their hate - i.e. we should criticise people based on what they say or do, not on what we think they are.

It's clear that this was the context.

Stop mincing words.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40703 Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #4 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm he's a lefty. they don't answer questions. they are above those capitalist/ bourgeoisie/proletariat confines. Ask marla, she knows ..........
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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #5 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:44pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

He said that we shouldn't criticize Nazis until they openly reveal their hate - i.e. we should criticise people based on what they say or do, not on what we think they are.

It's clear that this was the context.

Stop mincing words.

Correct.

Effendi's forte.....deliberate distortion of what was actually said.

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Reply #6 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:45pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:44pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

He said that we shouldn't criticize Nazis until they openly reveal their hate - i.e. we should criticise people based on what they say or do, not on what we think they are.

It's clear that this was the context.

Stop mincing words.

Correct.

Effendi's forte.....deliberate distortion of what was actually said.

You'll soon accuse me of this, I'm sure.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:28pm

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm:

It has finally happened. In an effort to defend Muslims, the apologists are now declaring it is also wrong to criticise Nazis.

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

John went on to spend several pages pretending he did not say this, and that he was talking about jailing people rather than criticising them. He now refuses to give a straight answer, but continues to post endless deflections:

John Smith wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 1:16pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 1:09pm:

You are confused John. You did not answer my question before I asked it.

Sure I did.

It depends which Nazis.

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Reply #9 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:34pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

He said that we shouldn't criticize Nazis until they openly reveal their hate - i.e. we should criticise people based on what they say or do, not on what we think they are.

It's clear that this was the context.

Stop mincing words.

so if you find one assembling bombs you do nothing until he sets it off..

got it!

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Reply #11 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:38pm

cods wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

He said that we shouldn't criticize Nazis until they openly reveal their hate - i.e. we should criticise people based on what they say or do, not on what we think they are.

It's clear that this was the context.

Stop mincing words.

so if you find one assembling bombs you do nothing until he sets it off..

got it!

if he's assembling a bomb he's doing something you ninny.

What would you say if I criticise you for your anti semitism cods?

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #13 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:40pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

It's FD's MO. He doesn't debate, and he certainly doesn't answer question or explain himself when discussing something, he only asks the same questions over and over hoping for a 'gotcha' moment, and if that doesn't work he starts another thread whereby he misinterprets what the person has said.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #14 - Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:42pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 5:40pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

FD, you're completing misinterpreting (I think intentionally) John Smith's comment.

It's FD's MO. He doesn't debate, and he certainly doesn't answer question or explain himself when discussing something, he only asks the same questions over and over hoping for a 'gotcha' moment, and if that doesn't work he starts another thread whereby he misinterprets what the person has said.

... and goes on about it for years, copy and pasting his little quote bombs into unrelated discussions.

It's incredibly tedious.

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