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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #180 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:16am

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Or is it just because he was a nazi?

Yes.

John do you think we should refrain from criticising Nazis unless they openly reveal their hate? Were you trying to backpedal when you pretended it was about jailing people rather than criticising them?

What was I wrong about and how did I misrepresent you? Or was that just a desperate effort by you to avoid the question?

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #182 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:24am

I was hoping for a straight answer without the backpedaling. Is it futile to ask you for a straight answer John?

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

Is this your answer, or is it misleading to quote you?

How about something different from no answer at all, spineless evasion, and constant lies from you about already answering?

What was I wrong about John?

How have I misrepresented you?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #183 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:25am you got a straight answer, with no backpeddling ... and have pretended not to see it ever since. I know what you can do, why don't you start another thread about it. Maybe that'll help you see things more clearly.
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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #184 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:27am

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

you got a straight answer, with no backpeddling ... and have pretended not to see it ever since.

Is this it John? Or is this one of your lies? I can't tell.

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

What sound does a jellyfish make?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #185 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:30am freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:27am: What sound does a jellyfish make? say something out loud and you'll have your answer
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83830 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #186 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:38am How many pages do you two wish to reserve for this ongoing nonsense of tit-for-tat? Is this a schoolyard? Mods.. Mods....
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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #187 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am

John were you lying when you said I was wrong and I was misrepresenting you? If not, why are you so afraid to say what I was wrong about and how I misrepresented you? Honestly, I have never seen someone so afraid of their own opinion.

Should we refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate? Why does this simple question elicit such extraordinary evasiveness from you?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #188 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:38am: How many pages do you two wish to reserve for this ongoing nonsense of tit-for-tat? Is this a schoolyard? Mods.. Mods.... you kidding? FD will keep this up for years. It's far easier for him than admitting he's a deceitful liar
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #189 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:42am What did I lie about John? Why are you so scared to say?
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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #190 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:43am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:24am:

I was asking John whether he thinks it is wrong to criticise you or your grandfather if you don't openly reveal your hate.

You are right it is wrong to criticise me or my grandfather because of someones generalisation about certain population.
If my grandfather was a Nazi doesn't mean that I should automatically irrationally hate anyone, for example like British hate Russians without knowing why.
By the way many Jews (Ashkenazis) were elite members of German Nazi party or closely collaborated with Nazis, for example Adolf Eichmann, Martin Bormann, George Soros etc.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #191 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:44am

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

John were you lying when you said I was wrong and I was misrepresenting you?

nope

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

If not, why are you so afraid to say what I was wrong about and how I misrepresented you?

been there, done that ... you want to pretend you didn't see it go for it, just don't expect me to keep repeating myself

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

Honestly, I have never seen someone so afraid of their own opinion.

you should have tried honesty from the beginning, it would work better for you

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

Should we refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

already answered

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

Why does this simple question elicit such extraordinary evasiveness from you?

the only evasiveness is you pretending it hasn't been answered.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #192 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:45am

Auggie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:15am:

capitosinora wrote on Aug 26^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 26^th, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

capitosinora wrote on Aug 25^th, 2017 at 7:27pm:

Nazis in Germany were good citizens.
My grandfather was a Nazi and he was very nice to Askhenazis and other Jews.

The majority of nazis were good people who intergrated and were contributing to the country.

See how stoopid that sounds

Now put muzzo where the word nazi is and you have the exact same situation.

You're grandpa was a Nazi?

THat explains everything

But I've never been Nazi.
And what's wrong being Nazi.
Better being Nazi than British because Nazis killed less people than British did.

The Americans have killed more people than the nazis, does that make the Americans worse than the Nazis?

They are inocent because they didn't kill Jews (Ashkenazis)

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #193 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:47am What did I lie about John? Why are you so scared to say? Why do you feel such a compulsion to respond to these questions, but such fear of giving a straight answer?
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capitosinora Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2204 USA Florida Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #194 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:51am freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:47am: What did I lie about John? Why are you so scared to say? Why do you feel such a compulsion to respond to these questions, but such fear of giving a straight answer? Don't worry about him he is frightened of being accused as an antisemitic.
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