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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis? Reply #315 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:35pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:34pm: Aussie is a filthy racist.
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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #317 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:38pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:34pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Far K Me.....get it right!!! Karnal call them 'boongs' sometimes even 'dirty boongs,' ~ I stick to 'abos.'

Okay?

Grin

I have it right Aussie, you have got yourself into the position of defending calling aboriginals boongs.

Aussie is a filthy racist.

Now now, Herbie, racism is perfectly natural. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, it can even be seen as a strength.

Dirty? Don't you be so hard on yourself. We're all racists here, no?

Tell FD. Give him your old speech.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #318 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:41pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

Now now, Aussie, you be nice to Herbie. He's one of the good ones.

He's on FD's side.

Gandalf's shadow venturing a little humour here.

Here you go, FD, Herbie's doing the old Secret routine. Boong. Taxi driver. Gandalf's shadow.

Herbie's got your back, remember that.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #319 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:28pm

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 12:37am:

Oh dear FD...

It was a member called "capitosinora" (sic) who posted that. Not John.

Hope this helps you stay on track!

Hi FD,

You never acknowledged your mistake in accusing John of posting something he didn't.

Could you please create a new thread to do so?

thanks
M

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #320 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:29pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Is this your answer John?

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

i believe that was a part of my answer.

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Or am I lying by quoting you?

you're lying by omitting the rest of what was said.

There are now over 20 pages of you impersonating a jellyfish John. Do I lie every time I fail to quote all of your gibberish? Or is there some special gibberish you would like included? And why is it a lie if I leave it out?

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

is this where you start asking the same dumb questions over and over again FD? If it is, let me stop you before you even start. My answers aren't going to change.

Mr Smith, your next door neighbour

IS

a Nazi. Take that as a given.

Are you quite happy to be critical of his political views?

I'll criticise people for what they do or say. I don't care if they're a nazi as long as they don't act out on it.

Do they have to "openly reveal their hate" before you will criticise a Nazi John? Or do they have to "act out on it"?

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #321 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Is this your answer John?

John Smith wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:

So we should refrain from criticising Nazis until they actually do something wrong, or openly reveal their hate?

a rather simplified comment but pretty much spot on, yes.

i believe that was a part of my answer.

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

Or am I lying by quoting you?

you're lying by omitting the rest of what was said.

There are now over 20 pages of you impersonating a jellyfish John. Do I lie every time I fail to quote all of your gibberish? Or is there some special gibberish you would like included? And why is it a lie if I leave it out?

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 8:55pm:

is this where you start asking the same dumb questions over and over again FD? If it is, let me stop you before you even start. My answers aren't going to change.

Mr Smith, your next door neighbour

IS

a Nazi. Take that as a given.

Are you quite happy to be critical of his political views?

I'll criticise people for what they do or say. I don't care if they're a nazi as long as they don't act out on it.

Do they have to "openly reveal their hate" before you will criticise a Nazi John? Or do they have to "act out on it"?

Do you want to answer a question yet?

We'll wait for your reply.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #322 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

It ain't working... Grin

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #323 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:39pm

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

It ain't working... Grin

Yes it is. I already have one minion - John. He has invented a new rule that you aren't allowed to criticise me unless I openly reveal my hate. I may not have told him to say this, but he is on the right track.

Why can't we all just get along?

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Reply #324 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:54pm

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

Ah.

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Reply #325 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:59pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

It ain't working... Grin

Yes it is. I already have one minion - John. He has invented a new rule that you aren't allowed to criticise me unless I openly reveal my hate. I may not have told him to say this, but he is on the right track.

Why can't we all just get along?

Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

A key lesson for you FD. If you don't want to be a white supremacist, which I guess you currently do, based on your previous posts, you need to learn about the error of your ways. Its not enough to mount mealy mouthed defenses of your hatred, you need to acknowledge your errors and move on.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #326 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:03pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

It ain't working... Grin

Yes it is.

No it's not. Despite all your porkies, evasion and mindless tap dancing, the new member here has worked you out. He's seen through your agenda instantly.

"Sustainability", innit.

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Re: Is it wrong to criticise Nazis?
Reply #327 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:05pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:

Do they have to "openly reveal their hate" before you will criticise a Nazi John? Or do they have to "act out on it"?

not sure what part you struggle with. I thought it was fairly obvious . If I see or hear nothing to criticise, I won't criticise them.

Now why don't you do your jellyfish impersonation and pull out part of that reply and start another thread on it.

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Reply #328 - Aug 27^th, 2017 at 11:06pm

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Yes it is. I already have one minion - John. He has invented a new rule that you aren't allowed to criticise me unless I openly reveal my hate. I may not have told him to say this, but he is on the right track.

Why can't we all just get along?

and then you cry when I call you a liar. Cheesy

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Reply #329 - Aug 28^th, 2017 at 1:49am

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:59pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Moriaty wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 27^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

Hitler's Nazis were fairly much okay for as long as they remained Nazis, but then it all went off the rails when Hitler started giving orders that had nothing to do with National Socialism. The genocide against the Jews and others ... foreign invasions ... his dictatorial powers ... these were something totally outside the ideology of National Socialism.

You really need to start some research buddy.

The key to Hitler's Dictatorship was the way he managed to enable his adherent to "work towards the Fuehrer" without explicit commands.

So much of the murder, genocide and other crimes were committed by lackeys whose commanders were assuming they knew the mind of Hitler.

Fair enough, they were often on the "right track" as far as Hitler was concerned, but do not equate that with direct control over the minutiae.

In some ways I see this is how FD would like to operate. He posts the right-wing propaganda on the front page of this website, and his "stormtroopers" like "the mechanic" go forth and proselytize on his behalf.

It ain't working... Grin

Yes it is. I already have one minion - John. He has invented a new rule that you aren't allowed to criticise me unless I openly reveal my hate. I may not have told him to say this, but he is on the right track.

Why can't we all just get along?

Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

A key lesson for you FD. If you don't want to be a white supremacist, which I guess you currently do, based on your previous posts, you need to learn about the error of your ways. Its not enough to mount mealy mouthed defenses of your hatred, you need to acknowledge your errors and move on.

Does that include them brothers that cry racist at every turn, and then feel they have a right to impose their doctrine - no matter how diaphanous and disorganised - on everyone else?

Government by emotion has thus far proven to be a total failure.... and has created more problems that it has resolved.....

What are your alternatives?

A government of absolute control, as long as it is from the 'right' side of the tracks?

Tbugger is wrong with you people? I get the feeling that FD and I are often (not always) on the same track.... the ONLY difference between a good government of any kind and a bad one is.... the way it operates....

Hence the MI.6 lady who said once to me I would make an excellent benevolent dictator.... no matter what, I would not impose hurt on others without proper cause.... unlike the many here of any 'sides', who would happily dispose of their 'opposition' in the gas chambers at the stroke of a pen - as long as it was 'in the greater good'......

It's called psycho or sociopathy... and this nation has endured it for over two hundred years.. and god knows what the Kaffirs did before that......

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