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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #90 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:42pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
capitosinora wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 9:27am:
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capitosinora wrote on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 8:06pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 12:16pm:
Embrace racism.

After all ' ...... chanted "Jews will not replace us" ...... ' do you WANT to be replaced by another culture ?

Be a patriot.
Be proud of your own culture and who you are.

Know that mono-culture societies are better.


To be proud of your own culture first you have to have a culture.
You poor bubba, did an Aussie steal your girlfriend?


Blah, blah, blah stop talking about something you don't know what it is.
If you have intelligence and culture give us:

1. Definition of an Australian
2. Definition of Australian cultural identity.


Australian cultural identity


http://theme-me.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/yobbo-man-costume-lying-down-beer...



So wait one - by the same standards - no other nation has a culture, either, since each is made of of many disparate groups, not all acting the same....

You do realise now that your premise has zero floor under it, don't you?


As a British colony you are special case because you don't have developed your own cultural and national identity.
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #91 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:44pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
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the extreme groups do not accept anyone elses opinion ....


Which extreme group do you belong to, pet......as you certainly never accept anyone else's opinion....not ever!



ouch  Grin Grin Grin



did that hurt you ... wow aussie beware you have trodden on diddums toes  ..



yes, my sides hurt from laughing so much  Grin Grin Grin Grin



aussie wont be too hard on you... dont worry he saves his best for me..


aussies rebukes are about as effective as yours .....

my farts hold more punch than either of you.


Maybe you need a colonoscopy just to be on the safe side Jack......


did someone tell you this was a gay pickup site? they were mistaken, you'll need to go elsewhere


alternatively, you can send bobby a PM
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #92 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Quote:
the extreme groups do not accept anyone elses opinion ....


Which extreme group do you belong to, pet......as you certainly never accept anyone else's opinion....not ever!



ouch  Grin Grin Grin



did that hurt you ... wow aussie beware you have trodden on diddums toes  ..



yes, my sides hurt from laughing so much  Grin Grin Grin Grin



aussie wont be too hard on you... dont worry he saves his best for me..


aussies rebukes are about as effective as yours .....

my farts hold more punch than either of you.


Maybe you need a colonoscopy just to be on the safe side Jack......


did someone tell you this was a gay pickup site? they were mistaken, you'll need to go elsewhere


alternatively, you can send bobby a PM


Nah....he's too busy reading your's Jack....... Grin
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #93 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:46pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Quote:
the extreme groups do not accept anyone elses opinion ....


Which extreme group do you belong to, pet......as you certainly never accept anyone else's opinion....not ever!



ouch  Grin Grin Grin



did that hurt you ... wow aussie beware you have trodden on diddums toes  ..



yes, my sides hurt from laughing so much  Grin Grin Grin Grin



aussie wont be too hard on you... dont worry he saves his best for me..


aussies rebukes are about as effective as yours .....

my farts hold more punch than either of you.


Maybe you need a colonoscopy just to be on the safe side Jack......


did someone tell you this was a gay pickup site? they were mistaken, you'll need to go elsewhere


alternatively, you can send bobby a PM


Nah....he's too busy reading your's Jack....... Grin


your information is wrong

Seriously, you should write him, he has no standards
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #94 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:54pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Quote:
the extreme groups do not accept anyone elses opinion ....


Which extreme group do you belong to, pet......as you certainly never accept anyone else's opinion....not ever!



ouch  Grin Grin Grin



did that hurt you ... wow aussie beware you have trodden on diddums toes  ..



yes, my sides hurt from laughing so much  Grin Grin Grin Grin



aussie wont be too hard on you... dont worry he saves his best for me..


aussies rebukes are about as effective as yours .....

my farts hold more punch than either of you.




UGH! now I know why I usually steer clear..ugh! give me aussie any time..
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #95 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 3:11pm
 
Racial tensions are at a high. Are we on the verge of another Cronulla?

Rachael Jacobs
As a woman of colour in Australia my life is punctuated by insults and verbal abuse. In Charlottesville we were reminded how easily hateful words can turn into hateful actions

I’ve had nightmares all week.

This is not unusual. I dream wildly and vividly. But last week my social media feed was full of violence and hatred, bringing the night demons out to play.

I’m talking about posts and footage from Charlottesville. Scenes of white supremacists marching and organising, hateful slogans roared with flames in hand, even footage from the dreadful murder scene has been clogging my Facebook feed for days. All shared with no content or trigger warning.

Adding to that, I’m bombarded by interviews with Nazis, insights from KKK headquarters and a pundit’s deciphering of hate speech. It’s all scary stuff.

But it’s not new. The far right has always scared me. As an activist, I’m constantly at rallies, demonstrations and marches of causes I hold dear. But as a woman of colour, there’s no possible way I would ever attend a counter-protest of the far right. I have always feared their blind hatred would turn violent, and at Charlottesville, this tragically turned out to be the case.

My fear isn’t limited to their ideas, the public display of hatred or the direction in which they’re pulling our country. I am concerned for my physical safety.

Life as a woman of colour in Australia is punctuated by insults, verbal abuse and shouts of “go back to where you came from”. After a while you can read the tone of the hatred and know there is no logic or reason. It’s done by completely irrational people that, given the right circumstances, might lash out. At a young age, you learn when to fight back and when to sit silent. The threat of physical violence is ever-present.

For us, the goal is not always about justice or standing up against racism. Sometimes our actions are about staying alive.

This defies everything I know about creating social change – show love, bring people closer, break down barriers. In this instance, I cannot live the values I espouse.

It’s a strange feeling, being hated for absolutely no reason. It’s a sickening awareness that makes your nerves raw and puts you on edge. For this reason, I have no interest in seeing inside the KKK, finding out what fuels Nazis or hearing ideas of seriously disturbed individuals with abhorrent values. I know what they stand for and it’s plain wrong. I have no perverse fascination to hear more.

And for me, it’s not as bad as it could be. I’m writing from a position of privilege. I wear western clothes, I speak English, I have an Australian accent. My real fear is for all those who don’t have these safety nets. For them, this is a frightening time.

Pauline Hanson chose a hell of a week to don a burqa in the Australian parliament, ridiculing an already tormented minority who are on edge at world events. There are evidently no barriers to her shameless stunts, and she will get a poll bump as a result. The far right is alive and well in Australia.

If you think Charlottesville can’t happen in Australia, think again. Two years ago, on the 10-year anniversary of the Cronulla riots, one of the violent offenders said he was “not ashamed” of the stance he took.

Our parliament recently had a long, drawn-out debate about the appropriateness of hate speech in society. Led by senator George Brandis, we were told that people have the right to be bigots.

Last month the Islamophobia in Australia report revealed what many of us already know. That racist attacks against Muslims are rife, and women are most often the target of physical and verbal abuse.

Looking at the whole picture, it seems to me we’re on the edge of another Cronulla.

Racial tensions are at a high, being actively fuelled by leaders like Hanson and Donald Trump who make hate permissible.

In Charlottesville, we saw how easily hateful words can turn into hateful actions, dividing the community and tearing the fabric of society.

I cannot go to protests against racism due to the heightened tensions that are too real and visible to people of colour. I do, however, thank those who fight back, not just on my behalf but for all Australians. For the sickness that is hate and racism makes us all ill.

White people – do your part, because this is not something that happens to “someone else”. Society and the integrity of your community is at stake. In the words of this week’s murdered warrior, Heather Heyer: “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/23/racial-tensions-are-at-a-h...
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Reply #96 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 3:27pm
 
So more and more pages and still no proof...
Go Mothballs.
Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 9:16am:
What Global Upswing?


You have to be kidding mothballs. Cheesy

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Reply #97 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 3:34pm
 
Mothballs...

"White Supremacy" and "Muslim Supremacy"?
What don't you understand about them.
One is a flawed ideology based on racism.
The other is an all encompassing religious zeal to conquer the world.
Your stats?
back em up with some real evidence.
You claimed a global upswing yet you keep posting US figures only.
Hate to tell you, but you come off sounding like most Yanks, but the US is not the world.

BTW there are racists all over the planet deary.  Luckily they do not form anywhere near a majority.  You have more to fear from Muslim Fundamentalists. Roll Eyes
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Reply #98 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 3:41pm
 
why would a lecturer at a University receive hate  type of mail..??

do you think this could in anyway have anything to do with it.

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As an activist, I’m constantly at rallies, demonstrations and marches of causes I hold dear.



as an activist   it would be normal...I would think!

   facebook   oh gawd....close it down or block...

its the age we live in... fast contact its what the computer is about and yes sadly its abused...

  you put your name out there...it will happen .. why hasnt someone told her?...it is a violent world.

lucky for her its only words....no cars or trucks involved...

as for Cronulla they have been saying that for 10 years...

and guess what mothra before you start   there were at least two sides there.

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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #99 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:20pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 3:11pm:
Racial tensions are at a high. Are we on the verge of another Cronulla?

Rachael Jacobs
As a woman of colour in Australia my life is punctuated by insults and verbal abuse. In Charlottesville we were reminded how easily hateful words can turn into hateful actions

I’ve had nightmares all week.

This is not unusual. I dream wildly and vividly. But last week my social media feed was full of violence and hatred, bringing the night demons out to play.

I’m talking about posts and footage from Charlottesville. Scenes of white supremacists marching and organising, hateful slogans roared with flames in hand, even footage from the dreadful murder scene has been clogging my Facebook feed for days. All shared with no content or trigger warning.

Adding to that, I’m bombarded by interviews with Nazis, insights from KKK headquarters and a pundit’s deciphering of hate speech. It’s all scary stuff.

But it’s not new. The far right has always scared me. As an activist, I’m constantly at rallies, demonstrations and marches of causes I hold dear. But as a woman of colour, there’s no possible way I would ever attend a counter-protest of the far right. I have always feared their blind hatred would turn violent, and at Charlottesville, this tragically turned out to be the case.

My fear isn’t limited to their ideas, the public display of hatred or the direction in which they’re pulling our country. I am concerned for my physical safety.

Life as a woman of colour in Australia is punctuated by insults, verbal abuse and shouts of “go back to where you came from”. After a while you can read the tone of the hatred and know there is no logic or reason. It’s done by completely irrational people that, given the right circumstances, might lash out. At a young age, you learn when to fight back and when to sit silent. The threat of physical violence is ever-present.

For us, the goal is not always about justice or standing up against racism. Sometimes our actions are about staying alive.

This defies everything I know about creating social change – show love, bring people closer, break down barriers. In this instance, I cannot live the values I espouse.

It’s a strange feeling, being hated for absolutely no reason. It’s a sickening awareness that makes your nerves raw and puts you on edge. For this reason, I have no interest in seeing inside the KKK, finding out what fuels Nazis or hearing ideas of seriously disturbed individuals with abhorrent values. I know what they stand for and it’s plain wrong. I have no perverse fascination to hear more.

And for me, it’s not as bad as it could be. I’m writing from a position of privilege. I wear western clothes, I speak English, I have an Australian accent. My real fear is for all those who don’t have these safety nets. For them, this is a frightening time.

Pauline Hanson chose a hell of a week to don a burqa in the Australian parliament, ridiculing an already tormented minority who are on edge at world events. There are evidently no barriers to her shameless stunts, and she will get a poll bump as a result. The far right is alive and well in Australia.

If you think Charlottesville can’t happen in Australia, think again. Two years ago, on the 10-year anniversary of the Cronulla riots, one of the violent offenders said he was “not ashamed” of the stance he took.

Our parliament recently had a long, drawn-out debate about the appropriateness of hate speech in society. Led by senator George Brandis, we were told that people have the right to be bigots.

Last month the Islamophobia in Australia report revealed what many of us already know. That racist attacks against Muslims are rife, and women are most often the target of physical and verbal abuse.

Looking at the whole picture, it seems to me we’re on the edge of another Cronulla.

Racial tensions are at a high, being actively fuelled by leaders like Hanson and Donald Trump who make hate permissible.

In Charlottesville, we saw how easily hateful words can turn into hateful actions, dividing the community and tearing the fabric of society.

I cannot go to protests against racism due to the heightened tensions that are too real and visible to people of colour. I do, however, thank those who fight back, not just on my behalf but for all Australians. For the sickness that is hate and racism makes us all ill.

White people – do your part, because this is not something that happens to “someone else”. Society and the integrity of your community is at stake. In the words of this week’s murdered warrior, Heather Heyer: “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/23/racial-tensions-are-at-a-h...


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This is not unusual. I dream wildly and vividly."

That pretty much says it, methinks... welcome to my world, honey....

'murdered warrior'?  You mean she 'fell in battle'?  why was she battling then?  them's the breaks honey... (again with the lauding of the se;lf-proclaimed 'correct' side' and the vilification of the 'other' side.... bloody candle lighting at the statue of The Ginneral bastards that they are...

More hyperbole and refusal to address issues rather than persons...
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #100 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:50pm
 
Yes of course Grap. They just lit some candles about some statues. That's all they did.
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Reply #101 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:51pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Are you asking me whether I can disprove BS faster than you can make it up?



What are you basing your rejection of the statistics on? Your gut?


Your inability to back them up. You said something stupid. You back it up. I cannot disprove something that does not exist in the first place, and it is only your irrational rejection of basic logic that leads you to make such an idiotic demand in the first place.
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Reply #102 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:59pm
 
mothra if the word of these protesters doesnt change anything..

what do you think  can we do about it?..

I often wonder if those who complain about what is said to them on "facebook"  what they say in return...or what they have said to draw that type of attention....I dont do facebook much so would have no idea to what purpose it is used... but I would think attacking others  was pretty obvious....in which case I would avoid it for sure.
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Reply #103 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 5:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Are you asking me whether I can disprove BS faster than you can make it up?


How do you know if it is bullshit if you haven't proven it?
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Re: How to respond to the upswing in racism
Reply #104 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 5:02pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Are you asking me whether I can disprove BS faster than you can make it up?



What are you basing your rejection of the statistics on? Your gut?


Your inability to back them up. You said something stupid. You back it up. I cannot disprove something that does not exist in the first place, and it is only your irrational rejection of basic logic that leads you to make such an idiotic demand in the first place.


What did i say that was stupid, FD? Did you read the OP or are you just having a little reaction to the thread title?

It's an established fact that alt-right activity and terrorism is on the rise across the globe. Are you actually arguing that that is not racist?

You probably are. This'll be good.
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