mothra wrote on Sep 1^st, 2017 at 11:04pm:

Sure, all religions are repressive. But not to the same calibre.  Conservative islam is growing, and I'd say that's the one we should prioritise our concern with.  And whether one is or isn't repressed is unfortunately not always up to the person being repressed to decide.  You should read 'on tyranny' by timothy snyder.

mothra wrote on Sep 1^st, 2017 at 11:51pm:

Not at all. I seek to represent islam by the worst case scenarios because they are the common case scenarios.


And the next time a woman is gangraped and then stoned I'll just tell her mothra says, 'meh'.

And you're right, reform is happening in Islam. By 2057, women may be allowed to drive

mothra wrote on Sep 1^st, 2017 at 11:54pm:

with you it's become obvious it's kind of pointless given how oblivious you are to the harm you're doing.

mothra wrote on Sep 1^st, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Have you ever considered that perahaps freediver is not the issue? I mean, we jump on this forum, you give us your absolute bonkers opinion on the state of islam, we demonstrate quite easily how you're not thinking adequately about the issues, you then progress to call us islamophobic, bigoted, etc and argue strawman arguments. 

I really do wish you would stop calling yourself a feminist and a progressive. You are neither.

mothra wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 12:09am:

Your bonkers opinion is that while there is 'some' bad in islam, there is plenty of good so let's concentrate on the good because apparently that will somehow eradicate the bad.  So each time a woman gets gang raped and stoned to death, I guess by ignoring this and instead thinking about some westernised muslim woman claiming that islam is feminist, behind a burqa she'll claim she wears freely of course, we will make everything a lot better.

Basically you just want some blinkers around your eyes. Not sure why you afford Islam so much patience.

mothra wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 12:16am:

You don't need to say it, you demonstrate it with everything else you say.

mothra wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 12:25am:

I don't really think it's possible to have a constructive dialogue with someone who jumps on using words like bigoted, only to then not even explain why they did so.

And I offered to discuss Middle East, it was you who then instead decided to strawman and suggest I don't consider any other part of the world Muslim. So how can we have a discussion at all when you're always on the defensive, and incapable to being constructive?

And you never actually explained why you prefer to use 'repressive regime' over 'Muslim'. instead you berated me again over a strawman because you thought I was comparing islam to fascism (which, to be fair I do quite often, because they aren't too far apart, except I didn't in our discussion nor in this thread).

Anyway, I think if you want to have an honest and constructive dialogue then you need to first change yourself.

mothra wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 12:35am:

that is meant to be insulting somehow? Mothra, what part of my summation was wrong? Be specific.