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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Normal People should vote NO Reply #165 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm: marriage has always been between male and female Incorrect.
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Reply #166 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Anyone else sick of hearing bald statements of a contrary nature totally unsupported by even an argument? It seems all the Yes vote have to say to every argument is - that's not so.......

That's what is defined as a 'strandard' in the New Grappler Dictionary..... a standard or view floating on nothing of substance, but rather being left high and dry on a (often self-created) reef, or washed up on the shore like a dead Muslim trying to get to Europe...

Please Explain??

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Normal People should vote NO Reply #167 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:11am NO is all the GO
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Reply #168 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 1:38am

I'm amazed at how many self-proclaimed intelligent and so-called educated people here can come up with nothing more than -

"That's not so.... marriage wasn't always between a man and a woman (then Who Tbugger was it between?)" ...

"you're out of touch"..

"You're homophobic".....

"NO!"

It's like arguing with children... but when those children start threatening a dissenting person's life and livelihood.. I draw the line.

Who would give a child a loaded gun?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139923 Gender:	Re: Normal People should vote NO Reply #169 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am: Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm: marriage has always been between male and female Incorrect. Please explain? Marriage has not always been between male and female.
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Reply #170 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation. You are the true communicator of this site. Grin

Trolling much?

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Reply #171 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

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Reply #172 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

Proof?

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Re: Normal People should vote NO
Reply #173 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 9:45am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

Proof?

You can't be serious.

"The claim: Tony Abbott says marriage, or marriage-like relationships, have always been between a man and a woman

"The verdict: A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'.

Tony Abbott incorrect on the history of marriage

"Roman Emperor Nero was married to not one man, but two.

"His nuptials were recorded and discussed at the time between subjects - friendly and hostile.

"The detail is recorded in the 1999 book Roman Homosexuality (updated in 2012) by Craig Williams, a classics professor of Brooklyn College, New York.

"The book includes a chapter on marriage between men, practiced throughout the empire, all the way to the top."

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Reply #174 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 9:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

Proof?

Some more for you.

Gay 'marriage' in medieval Europe

"Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean.

"Apart from the couples' gender, these events were almost indistinguishable from other marriages of the era.

"Twelfth-century liturgies for same-sex unions — also known as "spiritual brotherhoods" — included the recital of marriage prayers, the joining of hands at the altar, and a ceremonial kiss."

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Reply #175 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

I could be factual, but no-one can tell.

It seem to be missing any link valid evidence, context, or even a basic explanation, for your reply to be considered as anything other than a trite remark.

I though I would help you out with not using sarcasm this time as we all know you struggle with the concept.

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Reply #176 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:01am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

I could be factual, but no-one can tell.

It seem to be missing any link valid evidence, context, or even a basic explanation, for your reply to be considered as anything other than a trite remark.

You should have looked at the two posts above yours.

"Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean."

"A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'."

Too easy Grin

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Reply #177 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 6:26am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 12:05am:

Bam wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

marriage has always been between male and female

Incorrect.

Please explain?

Marriage has not always been between male and female.

What a great explanation.

Indeed.

Succinct, to the point and factual.

I could be factual, but no-one can tell.

It seem to be missing any link valid evidence, context, or even a basic explanation, for your reply to be considered as anything other than a trite remark.

You should have looked at the two posts above yours.

"Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean."

"A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'."

Too easy Grin

If it was "too easy" why the fkk didn't you do it in the first instance ?

Personally I couldn't care less I hope those sick little fkkers infest every church in that land turning churches into mini madi gras'. Anything that leads to the destruction of religion and its institutions, I am all for, as they say, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' albeit temporarily.

Still won't be voting yes, but.

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Reply #178 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:01am:

You should have looked at the two posts above yours.

"Same-sex unions aren't a recent invention. Until the 13th century, male-bonding ceremonies were common in churches across the Mediterranean."

"A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between 'a man and a woman'."

Too easy Grin

And what, precisely were these 'male bonding ceremonies'? Oaths of loyalty and fealty by knights etc? Pledges to religious insititutions?

Marriage and "other solemnised relationships"? Thanks for coming....... and proving the point that marriage is not other than man and woman..

"spiritual brotherhoods" - what part of "spiritual" do you NOT understand?

Talk about stretching for anything that might remotely support 'gay marriage' in the past, or anything that might even suggest that marriage was not always between a man and a woman...

Grin

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Reply #179 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:17am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:10am:

....... and proving the point that marriage is not other than man and woman..

Jesus, I'm owning you guys this morning.

"As of 1 September 2017, same-sex marriage is legally recognized (nationwide or in some parts) in the following countries: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay."

Too easy Grin

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