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Reply #15 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:55pm
 
The only time a full-on war is likely is if the little fat twat (or whoever pushes the button on his behalf) miscalculates and one of his little rockets drops short and lands on Japan. Other than that, like gweggy, he’s all pizz and wind……
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Reply #16 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:36am
 
Jong Un, heir to the throne of Kim, is only the ostensible “leader” of a cabal of Stalinists who run the ever more isolated state of North Korea. Those Stalinists have watched the one time “communist” world change to far less confrontational foreign policies.

Cuba is too far away, and too economically hamstrung to be much help, and it must be of some chagrin to the NK regime to find Chinese support and sympathy dwindling. At this time, NK is putting its shrinking resources into expensive military development.  A market for their rocketry and nuclear weapons exists and they may be gambling on that source of income to sure-up their failing state.
The NK Stalinists do not appear to be very imaginative, and whether they are seriously considering starting a war with the USA is hard to predict, but they may favour the idea. They know that a communist North Korea only exists due to their mountainous terrain which made conventional war difficult.

While advertising their technology with increasingly brazen missile and nuclear weapons tests, they may also hope to goad the USA into a first strike, gambling on the attack being conventional due to America public opinion opposing nuclear options. Any military action on the part of the USA would free NK to blitz South Korea, whom they could then hold to ransome, so to speak.

In the mean time, rocket launches and detonations give the illusion of a powerful regime that can taunt the USA as it pleases, which of course, appeals to all their customers, like Islamic Hamas, Islamic Iran, and even shadowier organisations.
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Reply #17 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:37pm
 
red baron wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
Problem is Aussie that this 'kid' had the capability now to send a nuke to the U.S. (or multiple)

How long do you think the U.S. will wait..until he is ready to go for the big one and drop nukes on U.S. mainland?

Can't see it

The next few weeks will be critical, the U.S. will be watching China's actions like a hawk

We are literally on the precipice


He doesn't possess the rounds in the locker for an all-out with the US - unless his 'partners' come in as well..... and I sincerely doubt that Capitalist China and Mafia/Capitalist Russia are that interested these days.

Dropping one on the US is utterly stupid unless he is given full support by Russia and China, and both have now too much to lose due to the cultural assimilation war that brought them into the capitalist fold......  (How The East Was Won - not that movie about Siberia)...
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Reply #18 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
Each time Jong Un tests an inter continental ballistic missile or does a nuclear test in North Korea countless millions of dollars are being spent

China has put a half choke hold on North Korea and following the Nuclear Test don't be surprised if they put the whole foot on North Korea's throat

Jong Un's options dwindle by the day

He may be just mad enough to actually attack someone

If he does it will be practically the last thing he does

The U.S. know where he is every minute of the day

One of the first things they would do is take him out

Because, without him the Country would fold like a deck of cards
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Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:31pm
 
The power bosses in North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, have always liked to portray their countries as the victims of US imperialism which a surprising number of people actually believe. These are mostly dyed in the wool anti-American, who would still hate the USA if Bernie Sanders was President.

In reality the situation for the people in those three countries is of their own government's doing. Both the Chinese and the Soviets eventually figured this out, and decided getting rich was better than staying poor in the name of the glorious people liberation.

Thugs like King Kim and his friends probably know all this, but have dug themselves in so deep they only see one way out. That means creating a situation where they are seen to be the victims, without losing power. Trump could be their Ace in the Hole.

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Reply #20 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:36pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:31pm:
The power bosses in North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, have always liked to portray their countries as the victims of US imperialism which a surprising number of people actually believe. These are mostly dyed in the wool anti-American, who would still hate the USA if Bernie Sanders was President.

In reality the situation for the people in those three countries is of their own government's doing. Both the Chinese and the Soviets eventually figured this out, and decided getting rich was better than staying poor in the name of the glorious people liberation.

Thugs like King Kim and his friends probably know all this, but have dug themselves in so deep they only see one way out. That means creating a situation where they are seen to be the victims, without losing power. Trump could be their Ace in the Hole.



I've come to the conclusion that everything NK is doing is actually a cry for help. They can't end it so they'll push and push to try and get outside forces to intervene.
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Reply #21 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:40pm
 
how come we get these amazing shots of kim clapping his hands when a rocket manages to get off the launchpad.. yet not a word on how the North Korean people are taking all his aggressive actions...the Sth Koreans know whats happening so the Nth would know as well.....its as if all the people have disappeared....
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Reply #22 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 5:12am
 
Japan is evacuating 60,000 of its citizens out of South Korea.. '

North Korea is positioning another missile to the launch pad...

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Reply #23 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
I'm quite worried where this is heading. Dying now wasn't in my plans.
Surely some agreed regime change is possible by Russian, Chinese & US special forces and in everybody's interest.
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Reply #24 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 5:37pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:30am:
I'm quite worried where this is heading. Dying now wasn't in my plans.
Surely some agreed regime change is possible by Russian, Chinese & US special forces and in everybody's interest.


Any discomfort to US foreign policy is OK with China and Russia. Whichever way it goes they can say "I told you so." As for regime change, look how well it went in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd put money on the United States phuqing it up.
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Reply #25 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 5:41pm
 
Hasn't China said that if the US strike first they will back NK but if the fat little fool strikes first that they will remain neutral?

I think one of his test missiles will miss their intended ocean mark and he will accidentally drop one on Japan.  Then all hell will break loose and NK will be turned to dust.

End of problem.
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Reply #26 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:14pm
 
But it won't be the end of the problem, it will be the start of an awful.environmental disaster
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Reply #27 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm
 
A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days.
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Reply #28 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:40am
 
issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days.


People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII.
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Reply #29 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 10:19am
 
capitosinora wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:40am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days.


People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII.


So true. And that's why I think North Korea has every right to feel the way it does.
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