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How many attacks will this result in?
Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

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Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

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Re: How many attacks will this result in?
Reply #2 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:59pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

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Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few. But please tell me this: when you you think the Catholic Church will allow Catholics to marry non-Catholics? Malcolm Turnbull is one person who had to convert to marry Lucy.

When will Jewish Orthodox rabbis marry non-Jews? Ivanka Trump had to convert to marry Jared Kushner.

Cleopatra was forced to marry her brother when she was a child. That didn't stop her learning how to give superb blowjobs and trapping Roman generals in her web of seduction.

I blame Islam, no?

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Re: How many attacks will this result in?
Reply #3 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:14pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

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Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few. But please tell me this: when you you think the Catholic Church will allow Catholics to marry non-Catholics? Malcolm Turnbull is one person who had to convert to marry Lucy.

When will Jewish Orthodox rabbis marry non-Jews? Ivanka Trump had to convert to marry Jared Kushner.

Cleopatra was forced to marry her brother when she was a child. That didn't stop her learning how to give superb blowjobs and trapping Roman generals in her web of seduction.

interesting how Jared wouldn't have to convert if Ivanka was muslim. awww, how feminist of Islam!

Anyway, sure, many religions are backwards. Once again, dearest Karnal, I never deny this. But you once again seem to equate when unfortunately the state of the world shows how irrational this is. Tell me Mr. Karnal, if Israel was to introduce such laws, how many jews would protest against it? If Israel had these laws, and then tried to remove them, how much opposition would there be? Tunisia, in general, is a 'more' progressive Islamic state, and something tells me the level of conservative muslims, and islamists, will simply result in bloodshed anyway.

Tell me, why does Israel, a country most of you regressives claim is a religious state, not have such laws? Perhaps it has something to do with the number of crazy conservatives/islamists that subscribe to the so called illegitimate interpretation (as said by gandalf)?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48834 At my desk.	Re: How many attacks will this result in? Reply #4 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:18pm Didn't Mothra once use Tunisia as an example of a progressive Muslim country? Perhaps this is what she meant. They are considering allowing women to marry who they want. What more could a feminist ask for? Nothing, if she knows what is good for her.
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Re: How many attacks will this result in?
Reply #5 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:21pm

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Didn't Mothra once use Tunisia as an example of a progressive Muslim country? Perhaps this is what she meant. They are considering allowing women to marry who they want. What more could a feminist ask for? Nothing, if she knows what is good for her.

Very progressive indeed.

Islam is heavenly. Cleopatra would be so proud.

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Re: How many attacks will this result in?
Reply #6 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:30pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

Quote:

Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few. But please tell me this: when you you think the Catholic Church will allow Catholics to marry non-Catholics? Malcolm Turnbull is one person who had to convert to marry Lucy.

When will Jewish Orthodox rabbis marry non-Jews? Ivanka Trump had to convert to marry Jared Kushner.

Cleopatra was forced to marry her brother when she was a child. That didn't stop her learning how to give superb blowjobs and trapping Roman generals in her web of seduction.

interesting how Jared wouldn't have to convert if Ivanka was muslim. awww, how feminist of Islam!

Anyway, sure, many religions are backwards. Once again, dearest Karnal, I never deny this. But you once again seem to equate when unfortunately the state of the world shows how irrational this is. Tell me Mr. Karnal, if Israel was to introduce such laws, how many jews would protest against it? If Israel had these laws, and then tried to remove them, how much opposition would there be? Tunisia, in general, is a 'more' progressive Islamic state, and something tells me the level of conservative muslims, and islamists, will simply result in bloodshed anyway.

Tell me, why does Israel, a country most of you regressives claim is a religious state, not have such laws? Perhaps it has something to do with the number of crazy conservatives/islamists that subscribe to the so called illegitimate interpretation (as said by gandalf)?

Israel is secular, Alevine. The Zionists were secularists. The state of Israel - and its creation - has nothing to do with religion. It's solely about nationalism. 19th century European Zionists went to great lengths to establish this.

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Re: How many attacks will this result in?
Reply #7 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:35pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

Quote:

Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few. But please tell me this: when you you think the Catholic Church will allow Catholics to marry non-Catholics? Malcolm Turnbull is one person who had to convert to marry Lucy.

When will Jewish Orthodox rabbis marry non-Jews? Ivanka Trump had to convert to marry Jared Kushner.

Cleopatra was forced to marry her brother when she was a child. That didn't stop her learning how to give superb blowjobs and trapping Roman generals in her web of seduction.

interesting how Jared wouldn't have to convert if Ivanka was muslim. awww, how feminist of Islam!

Anyway, sure, many religions are backwards. Once again, dearest Karnal, I never deny this. But you once again seem to equate when unfortunately the state of the world shows how irrational this is. Tell me Mr. Karnal, if Israel was to introduce such laws, how many jews would protest against it? If Israel had these laws, and then tried to remove them, how much opposition would there be? Tunisia, in general, is a 'more' progressive Islamic state, and something tells me the level of conservative muslims, and islamists, will simply result in bloodshed anyway.

Tell me, why does Israel, a country most of you regressives claim is a religious state, not have such laws? Perhaps it has something to do with the number of crazy conservatives/islamists that subscribe to the so called illegitimate interpretation (as said by gandalf)?

Israel is secular, Alevine. The Zionists were secularists. The state of Israel - and its creation - has nothing to do with religion. It's solely about nationalism. 19th century European Zionists went to great lengths to establish this.

you should tell your fellow regressives this, Karnal. They seem to think otherwise.

anyway, you didn't answer the questions I raised of you. COme now, don't be shy Karnal. Would you too expect attacks and bloodshed amongst the jews if a Jewish state decided to change a law to allow women to marry anyone? What would be the public opinion amongst the Jews for this law change? What about Christians? What do you think, Karnal? Do you think any christian/jewish state governments would have the same difficulty as Tunisia is about to have, all because of what is, quite frankly, a very simple and logical change to a very stupid law?

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Reply #9 - Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:13pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Which specific attacks and bloodshed are you referring to, Alevine?

You haven't said.

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Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few.

Did you read wrong? I didn't say attacks have happened, I asked whether you would expect attacks or bloodshed.

Shame, Karnal, Shame. stay away from the sauce dear Wink

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Reply #10 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 7:22am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 11:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Which specific attacks and bloodshed are you referring to, Alevine?

You haven't said.

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Quite a few, Alevine, quite a few.

Did you read wrong? I didn't say attacks have happened, I asked whether you would expect attacks or bloodshed.

Gee, that"s a relief. Quite a few, eh?

We'll look forward to them, Alevine. Cheers.

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Reply #12 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 2:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Let's see how many people end up getting blown up in suicide attacks, or run over by trucks, as a result of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/sep/04/we-are-an-example-to-...

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Currently, a Muslim woman is not allowed to marry a a non-Muslim. Men are allowed to marry women of any faith who don’t have to convert. Under Islamic law, men typically receive double the inheritance of any woman.

Ah Islam, you're so very, very liberal and progressive.

Karnal - let me guess...Cleopatra?

Jesus, this is how you react to something thats actually good happening in the muslim world? Before I opened the article I genuinely thought it was some backward step being taken.

Just proof that you have no interest in seeing reform, you just want to jeer and sneer at it, and cross your fingers and hope it fails - preferably with a bloodbath.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #13 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 2:46pm

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Citing the country’s 2014 constitution, considered one of the most progressive in the region, the president said: “The state is obliged to achieve full equality between women and men and to ensure equal opportunities for all responsibilities.”

Considering all the crap thats happening in the muslim world, one would think this sort of thing would be met with some positivity. But instead we get jeering and sneering, and people hoping like hell that we get a jolly bloodbath out of it. Incredible.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #14 - Sep 5^th, 2017 at 3:50pm

The only people bucking for a jolly bloodbath are muslims who believe the qur'an when it says to kill the reformers / corrupters, is a sure path to allah's favour.

Extracts from we-are-an-example-to-the-arab-world-tunisias-radical-marriage-proposals say:

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The former minister of public health, Abdellatif Mekki and the party’s former minister of religious affairs, Noureddine Khademi, along with a number of Imams and religious scholars from the country’s Zitouna University, have been vocal in their denunciation of the reforms.

Khademi said Tunisians were “in shock” since the president’s speech. “I say to the president I hope that you would reconsider this initiative.”

Mekki said laws around inheritance were already “a perfect system”. He posted on his Facebook page: “...Provoking the issue of inheritance does not have any relation with the perspective of equality, which I’m one of its supporters, but comes as part of an internal and foreign political ideology agenda, and we are sorry that the president did not pay attention to that.”

The announcement has drawn criticism from the region’s religious scholars. In a public statement, Abbas Shuman, deputy of grand imam Ahmad Al-Tayyib of the Egyptian religious authority Al-Azhar, the highest religious authorities in Sunni Islam, wrote that the potential reform to inheritance was, “unjust for women and is not in line with Islamic Sharia”.

In regard to inter-faith unions, he said: “Such a marriage would obstruct the stability of marriage.”

So the question remains, will the lure of the big breasted houris and little boys prove to be the fatal attraction for those who believe reform is anti islam?

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