I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.

re Yadda

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Some very good points.  When a parents rebuke a cruel child. a parent usually sees what he or she have done, And often the matter is quiet simple.   However, the act of accusing all of Muslims as evil, is in my opinion unjustified, and not so simple.  I.e. why I suggest the reason precisely why the bible have taught us not to judge others. 

Is then truthfulness is love?  Well, I think it depends.  In your case, you firmly believe that all muslims are children of Belial.  And wanted me to provide evidence to the contrary.  Well, who do you think you are?  Able to see through the lives of 22% of Earth population, and make a fair judgement on all of them.  It is no different than Muslim extremists labelling anyone who is not a muslim a infidel.   

Do not also forget, a parent is not always right.  We are all mortals.  Our mind only want to see and hear what we want to.  And so, when a parent makes a mistake, that parent need to apologize to the child and then read the passage on the bible about judging others.

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No, overcome evil with good.  Like, what the passage in the bible have suggested, give them food if they are hungry, water if they are thirsty.  In this regard, we need not take things out of context.

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The issue is that yadda, you have already made up your mind in this regard.  Therefore, no matter what I say (in which i did in great detail explained about terrorism have very little to do with religion, and everything to do with politics and war), or give any more evidence, you will not believe me anyway  So, thereafore, I quoted those passages in my post to let you see what a true Christian should do even if you are met with enemies. 

I would have preferred it if somehow, you can be convinced that Muslims are not children of Bilial.  I guess, ultimately, you will find out the truth when you face your own judgement.

Its a broken record.

Then you;'re a ringo starr type of drummer.

Valkie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 11:00am:


Nah, I think this is what you think the devil would do.  But remember, the Devil had been opposing God for a LONG time, and I do not think he is that foolish.  No... I think the devil would work in more clever ways. 

If I am the devil, I will distort Gods message.  Instead of being inclusive, I will make people think that they are special, and that they are the only true ways.  This, will drive people into different groups.  And then I will make smaller groups to make trouble between those groups in the name of larger groups.  And then in doing so, causing large scale war and devastation between the larger groups.  Each thinks that they are the right ones. 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:



LOL

Yeah, coz God loves everyone tickleandrose,       even the 'workers of iniquity'.      ....NOT!



Sorry tickleandrose,     but God isn't that inclusive.   !!!

Scripture, time and time again, states that our God is exclusive.




Malachi 3:14
Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.



Yes tickleandrose,

Jesus died, as a hope, to the repentant.     [...those who are remorseful, for their poor choices]

But not as a hope to un-repentent 'workers of iniquity'.



1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial [with LIARS]? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Revelation 22:9
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


Q.
Does God ever say in scripture, that lairs and murderers and wicked people, are OK by him ?



'Called and chosen'


Matthew 20:16
....for many be called, but few chosen.


Revelation 17:13
These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Luke 13:23
Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24  Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25  When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26  Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27  But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


tickleandrose,

And the scripture says, 'depart from me, all ye' who ???

Inclusive, or, exclusive ?

Criticise Islam before it becomes compulsory.

Being gay is about to be the norm for human relationships, so don't let Islam to copy the gays.

Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..