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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139872 Gender:	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #15 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:11pm And this:
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Reply #16 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:16pm

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BECAUSE SOME HAVE REFUSED TO REMOVE IT WHEN THE POLICE HAVE REQUESTED THEM TOO...ALL SORTS OF REASONS ACTUALLY....

Cods, if a Copper approached you and instructed you to remove your top and bra in public, would you?

(Readers, please do not attempt to visualise that scene in the extraordinary event cods actually complies with the instruction.)

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Reply #17 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:49pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

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BECAUSE SOME HAVE REFUSED TO REMOVE IT WHEN THE POLICE HAVE REQUESTED THEM TOO...ALL SORTS OF REASONS ACTUALLY....

Cods, if a Copper approached you and instructed you to remove your top and bra in public, would you?

(Readers, please do not attempt to visualise that scene in the extraordinary event cods actually complies with the instruction.)

so amusing what has that got to do with showing your face for identification..?????

you have already told us you wouldnt allow anyone wearing one in your cab...

so why should a cop take that risk?...why should a Bank why should a late night shop or petrol station..

if you allow one you allow them all... you cannot put a curfew on wearing it...

as for sledging me...go ahead if it makes you feel important...at least you are leaving other females alone..for a change.

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Reply #18 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:09pm:

cods wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

BECAUSE IT COVERS THE WHOLE FACE...........

So does this:

http://www.gottfriedmedical.com/custom_compression-garments/face-masks_chin-stra...

And this:

http://www.sportsmascots.ca/sports-mascots-canada/7.jpg

you have used that to prove a point in the past it does nothing for your image in fact it makes you look like a dickhead...

that person who wears those masks does not do so because they see it as a work of art... or something to be proud of....or ashamed of.. which ever way those people think that do wear the burqa.....

you being an authority you would know more than I

all I know is what I like to see in this country...and if they want my vote its a big fat YES BAN IT><

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #19 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:54pm its a shame you lefties dont grow up... we have been waiting for years for you to get some commonsense it just doesn happen....
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Reply #20 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

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BECAUSE SOME HAVE REFUSED TO REMOVE IT WHEN THE POLICE HAVE REQUESTED THEM TOO...ALL SORTS OF REASONS ACTUALLY....

Cods, if a Copper approached you and instructed you to remove your top and bra in public, would you?

(Readers, please do not attempt to visualise that scene in the extraordinary event cods actually complies with the instruction.)

Your time for theatrics is long gone. Cease and Desist haranguing Cods.

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Reply #21 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:03pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

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BECAUSE SOME HAVE REFUSED TO REMOVE IT WHEN THE POLICE HAVE REQUESTED THEM TOO...ALL SORTS OF REASONS ACTUALLY....

Cods, if a Copper approached you and instructed you to remove your top and bra in public, would you?

(Readers, please do not attempt to visualise that scene in the extraordinary event cods actually complies with the instruction.)

Your time for theatrics is long gone. Cease and Desist haranguing Cods.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/jobs/policeman-smiley-emoticon-1.gif

he cant help himself nef.. agnes isnt here for him to stir constantly....and monk isnt here to give him an excuse to antagonise members......the fact that relationships is slipping further down the slippery slope to oblivion doesnt bother him as much as taking a swipe at cods...

whats that saying..

simple things for .........

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38866 Gender:	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #22 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:13pm ...minds like yours cods and Nappy's, who hang off every word I post.
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #23 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:29pm Another attempt to get attention by trying to sensationalize fake news.
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Reply #24 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

matty wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:58pm:

matty wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:46pm:

matty wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

matty wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:28pm:

You say that because the polls show that most people support ssm, then the parliament should just vote on it. Well, by the same logic, most people support a ban on the burqa so the parliament should just vote for that too, right?

Not really, cause by saying burqa ban, they havent even defined the problem. Its actually a niqab.

Niqab and burqa are the same except the latter also covers the eyes. They're both symbols of female oppression.

But thanks for confirming my point. It's not the principle that matters but whether or not you agree with the policy.

So they aren't the same. But my actual response is that allowing SSM (whilst legislating for religious protections) doesnt discriminate against anyone, but banning the burqa/niqab does.

Like I said, no they are not. But the difference is very minimal and the similarity very maximal.

That's not my point, by the way. I disagree with you on that and am happy to have that debate but my point is why legislate one thing just because the public agrees with it and not another when the public also agrees with that?

Well because I dispute your statement of the difference being very minimal. Again, you havent explained why its not discriminatory to ban the burqa. You are impacting on religious practice. Same sex marriage is not, since its not banning church heterosexual marraige.

Once again, I am going to attempt to explain the point to you. That is not the issue here. As a democracy, you lot say that the parliament should pass legislation on something (with which you agree) because polls show that most people support it. However when it is the identical case but for something with which you don't agree, you don't support it. Why the double standard?

Happy to address the other points but not until you address that, as that is the point of this topic.

Actuallly it is the issue, my suggestion is that you can't see the difference, I keep trying to explain the difference in the circumstances. Until you address that, what is the point of this and every other thread you start on this entirely non-important topic.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #25 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:42pm The real intriguing question: Why are the Lefties supporting this sick SSM rubbish ?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Question for ssm supporters? Reply #26 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:45pm juliar wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 5:42pm: The real intriguing question: Why are the Lefties supporting this sick SSM rubbish ? Followed by the more relevant question? Why are you so subjectively biased. Aboott could come out in support of SSM tomorrow, and all of a sudden juliar supports SSM
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Reply #27 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

Labor frontbencher Tanya Plibersek gave a heartfelt speech on who she would be voting for.

“I’m voting yes for someone I have never met, for some 17-year-old somewhere in a country town who hasn’t told anyone that they are same-sex attracted,” she told reporters in Canberra.

“I’m voting yes for that person because no-one should feel alone, no-one should feel that they are being judged by the broad mass of the Australian community for who they are.

“Same-sex couples don’t deserve to have their relationships put to a vote of people who have never met them.

“So I will be voting yes because it’s the only fair thing to do.”

so Tanya will vote YES because she has met them....

hilarious......

so she thinks this will bring those 17 yr olds out of the closet... what a joke you are Tanya...

to think you are shadow Dep Leader...

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Reply #28 - Sep 7^th, 2017 at 6:44pm

matty wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 3:28pm:

You say that because the polls show that most people support ssm, then the parliament should just vote on it. Well, by the same logic, most people support a ban on the burqa so the parliament should just vote for that too, right?

Yes....The Parliament was elected to make these decisions....I believe any proposal should be taken to an election so the public can show the politicians what they think at the ballot box!!!