Apparently one of the reasons why Muslims have trouble answering questions is because they do not understand them. Take Gandalf for example, who cannot comprehend this one:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 25
th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
So... do you believe muslims today are a mindless collective?
That is not a misquote. That is Gandalf asking the question. Here is Gandalf having trouble understanding the same question for the next 20 pages:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 1
st, 2017 at 4:36pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 1
st, 2017 at 4:09pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 1
st, 2017 at 4:01pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 1
st, 2017 at 3:46pm:
Are you having difficulty understanding all of these questions Gandalf?
Indeed I am FD.
The last one is one that you asked me in this thread. Did it makes sense at the time that you asked it?
Were they mindless?
Were they a collective?
Were they treacherous?
Were they Jewish?
Do you believe Muslims today are a mindless collective?
None of it makes sense FD, thats the point I'm trying to make.
Muslims might also have trouble understanding what you mean if you ask whether their words are consistent with their actions. Apparently this is very 'cryptic'.
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6
th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 6
th, 2017 at 5:08pm:
Are you confused by the question Gandalf?
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 18
th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
So the sequence in your question is more accurately:
Among the polytheists to whom the muslims had a treaty with, exempt those who had been true to their treaty, then give the rest a certain number of months grace period to reestablish their treaties that they had broken - after which "kill the musrhiken wherever you find them".
Is this consistent with Muhammad's attack on Mecca?
I am indeed FD. Your cryptic talk of "consistency" is stupid and makes no sense - as I've been pointing out. I've already asked you to clarify it, and you answered by giving me a cherry picked version of the attack on Mecca - and not answering my question.
Try rewording your question into something that makes sense. That is, if you're not going to clarify for me what you mean by consistency, as I've already asked you to.
Another question Muslims struggle with is "where did all that money go?". It's not even a question. It's a "non-argument".
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 24
th, 2017 at 9:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 24
th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 24
th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
I think what FD is trying to say is that the school is lying about not being in a position to repay the $11 million, because presumably they need to keep it for the terrorists - which FD has previously stated as fact the money goes to, with not a shred of evidence.
Should we try to find out where all that money went Gandalf?
Yes, that was the non-argument you used last time.
Do you see the flaw in it?
Muslims don't like being 'dictated' what their own personal religious beliefs are. Asking them is also a no-no, if you reveal your impure motives with two letter words. Instead of asking them what they believe, we need a "genuine attempt to engage in dialogue and understanding".
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8
th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8
th, 2017 at 3:38pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8
th, 2017 at 11:30am:
freediver wrote on Sep 7
th, 2017 at 9:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7
th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7
th, 2017 at 9:23am:
Not violent eh? How many people did Muhammad kill or oversee the slaughter of?
How much of the Koran is dedicated to the promotion of violence?
Must be that time of week where FD dictates to me what my personal religious beliefs are.
How many people do you believe the founder of your non-violent religion killed or oversaw the slaughter of? Round to the nearest thousand if you are not sure.
How much of the Koran do you believe is dedicated to the promotion of violence?
I'm really not sure what your angle is FD - does the fact that I'm both a muslim and believe in peace and tolerance really bother you? Why the need to "disprove" my own personal beliefs? I just don't get it.
Let's start with what they are eh?
How many people do you believe the founder of your non-violent religion killed or oversaw the slaughter of? Round to the nearest thousand if you are not sure.
How much of the Koran do you believe is dedicated to the promotion of violence?
Why bother? You are only interested in cornering me and scoring points. Your annoying little "eh" at the end betrays your impure motives.
But the real question here is why is this little entrapment exercise so important to you? Have you noticed FD your entire time here is spent playing your little game of "get the muslim (and his spineless apologists)" - rather than a genuine attempt to engage in dialogue and understanding? I wonder why you bother FD. What do you actually hope to achieve with these petty games? Is it some inadequacy you feel in real life?
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