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Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:10am

Liberal MP stands by nuclear energy option

Nuclear technology sits hand in hand with concerns about North Korea but one federal MP believes there's also room for it in the energy debate.

Assistant minister Jane Prentice on Thursday again flagged support for nuclear power as a long-term solution.

"It is clean and I think there are opportunities," she told reporters in Canberra.

"I think the new nuclear technology is much safer than the old one and I think it should be on the discussion paper if we're serious about long-term clean energy."

The government is weighing up a clean energy target, the only recommendation it is yet to address from Chief Scientist Alan Finkel's review of the national electricity market.

"Of course, our problem at the moment is short-term power and making it affordable, making it sustainable and reliable," Ms Prentice said.

"I always believe that you need a longer term strategy as well.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/liberal-mp-stands-by-nuclear-en...

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:20am Quote: Assistant minister Jane Prentice on Thursday again flagged support for nuclear power as a long-term solution. Finally, a politician with foresight and a degree of intelligence. Don't talk....do it.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:22am Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:20am: Quote: Assistant minister Jane Prentice on Thursday again flagged support for nuclear power as a long-term solution. Finally, a politician with foresight and a degree of intelligence. Don't talk....do it. Exactly.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #3 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:51am longterm solution = post human era. like paying off the massive debt burden ... on the never never.
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #4 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:33pm BOOM!!!!!!
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #5 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:20am: Quote: Assistant minister Jane Prentice on Thursday again flagged support for nuclear power as a long-term solution. Finally, a politician with foresight and a degree of intelligence. Don't talk....do it. You're a tool: the americans don't want us using nuclear power!
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Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Swagman wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 11:20am:

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Assistant minister Jane Prentice on Thursday again flagged support for nuclear power as a long-term solution.

Finally, a politician with foresight and a degree of intelligence.

Don't talk....do it.

Exactly.

The americans don't want us using nuclear power!

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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4010 Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #7 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:36am Nuclear fusion reactor probably have more potential than nuclear fission reactors. However, it requires cutting edge technology in construction and engineering. Not to mention security issues. Unfortunately, other countries like USA does not like to share much of these technology with other countries.
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #8 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:12am Good to see the Lefties really have this nuclear thing sorted out.
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Reply #9 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 12:58pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 9:36am:

Nuclear fusion reactor probably have more potential than nuclear fission reactors. However, it requires cutting edge technology in construction and engineering. Not to mention security issues. Unfortunately, other countries like USA does not like to share much of these technology with other countries.

Fusion will never happen!

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20545 Gordon Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #10 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:35pm Why are Greens such technophobes?
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: NUKE IT cries a lib Reply #11 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 5:00pm Gordon wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:35pm: Why are Greens such technophobes? The americans don't want us to use Nuclear Power!
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Reply #12 - Sep 18^th, 2017 at 11:13am

The problem with going nuclear in Australia is that even if the government confirmed tomorrow that they were going to built a plant, it would probably be another 20 years of regulatory issues and beating back environmentalists before the plant was completed. During that time, you'd probably see advances in renewables and storage that would outweigh the benefits of building a nuclear power plant in the first place. Keep in mind that the most recently built nuclear plant in the US took 43 years to complete.

If we did go down the nuclear path, I'd recommend that we dedicate funding towards Focus Fusion or Project Pacer. Focus Fusion provides a method of converting nuclear fusion events directly into electricity, ie it doesn't need a steam turbine. Project Pacer proposed detonating a 2 kiloton thermonuclear bomb every 20 minutes in a specially designed chamber that used molten salt to capture the heat.

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Reply #13 - Sep 18^th, 2017 at 2:17pm

minarchist wrote on Sep 18^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

The problem with going nuclear in Australia is that even if the government confirmed tomorrow that they were going to built a plant, it would probably be another 20 years of regulatory issues and beating back environmentalists before the plant was completed. During that time, you'd probably see advances in renewables and storage that would outweigh the benefits of building a nuclear power plant in the first place. Keep in mind that the most recently built nuclear plant in the US took 43 years to complete.

If we did go down the nuclear path, I'd recommend that we dedicate funding towards Focus Fusion or Project Pacer. Focus Fusion provides a method of converting nuclear fusion events directly into electricity, ie it doesn't need a steam turbine. Project Pacer proposed detonating a 2 kiloton thermonuclear bomb every 20 minutes in a specially designed chamber that used molten salt to capture the heat.

America doesn't want us to go there: it's an unwritten rule!

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