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The latest London bombing.
Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:17pm
 


A little while ago the Germans would have solved this problem of Muslims bombing the locals by dragging 50 ordinary Muslims out of their homes and against a wall to be shot.

What happens then is that the Muslim Community doubles and triples its efforts to report any suspicious characters among them.
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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:23pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
A little while ago the Germans would have solved this problem of Muslims bombing the locals by dragging 50 ordinary Muslims out of their homes and against a wall to be shot.


How did collective punishments work out for the Germans in WWII, Herbie?

Seems to me it helped build the Resistance, rather than destroy it.

Drove them out of the Balkans in the end, didn't it?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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What happens then is that the Muslim Community doubles and triples its efforts to report any suspicious characters among them.


Evidence, Herbie.  Please prove to us that collective punishments are effective in turning people against the perpetrators?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
How did collective punishments work out for the Germans in WWII, Herbie?


It no doubt greatly reduced the number of mother's sons who left home to join the partisans. The knowledge that you are risking your mother and family's life by going out into the countryside to sabotage the Germans would have weighed heavily on the mind.


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What happens then is that the Muslim Community doubles and triples its efforts to report any suspicious characters among them.


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Evidence, Herbie.  Please prove to us that collective punishments are effective in turning people against the perpetrators?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Through commonsense and plain logic one can make certain assumptions about human behaviour.

Cause and Consequences.

If the Muslim Community is highly motivated to be the eyes and ears of Britain's Security Agencies to save their own lives, then it follows that the likelihood of potential bombers being reported to the police would increase greatly.

I am not advocating that Muslims be shot in response to these bombings. I'm only saying that if the gloves were to be taken off this would be a strategy that would no doubt prove effective.




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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
How did collective punishments work out for the Germans in WWII, Herbie?


It no doubt greatly reduced the number of mother's sons who left home to join the partisans. The knowledge that you are risking your mother and family's life by going out into the countryside to sabotage the Germans would have weighed heavily on the mind.


That was not what you originally claimed, now was it, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk, telling fibs again?

Collective Punishment fails.  It invariably creates greater resentment towards the occupiers in the minds of the occupied.   That was learnt everywhere it was used.   It hasn't worked for real well for the Israelis, nor will it work for the Burmese.

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What happens then is that the Muslim Community doubles and triples its efforts to report any suspicious characters among them.


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Evidence, Herbie.  Please prove to us that collective punishments are effective in turning people against the perpetrators?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Through commonsense and plain logic one can make certain assumptions about human behaviour.

Cause and Consequences.

If the Muslim Community is highly motivated to be the eyes and ears of Britain's Security Agencies to save their own lives, then it follows that the likelihood of potential bombers being reported to the police would increase greatly.

I am not advocating that Muslims be shot in response to these bombings. I'm only saying that if the gloves were to be taken off this would be a strategy that would no doubt prove effective.


That is not evidence, Herbie, that is supposition on your part.

In Australia, the UK, Canada, the USA, etc., the Muslim community are the greatest ally we have against Islamic Extremism.   Your efforts to stir up hatred because of your tolling falls on deaf ears for the most part.  All you're doing though, is like the other Islamophobes, is providing ammunition that the extremists can use against us in radicalising Muslim youths.

The next Terrorist incident in Australia is down to you, I think.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 8:35am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
In Australia, the UK, Canada, the USA, etc., the Muslim community are the greatest ally we have against Islamic Extremism.


... and the greatest source of Muslims bent on killing us.

Remove the 'Muslim Community' element and what are we left with if not a greatly more secure environment?

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Your efforts to stir up hatred because of your tolling falls on deaf ears for the most part.
 

Should the links I provide be censored at the news agencies like a couple of people tried to do with Charlie Hebdo? 

Is that what you're advocating?

Restrict freedom of the press lest it offend certain sensitivities?

State censorship?

Appeasement?

Peace in our Time?

What is responsible for seeing 49% of Australians wanting to see an end to Muslim immigration?

Could this opinion be based on the fact that this minority community keeps coughing up Warriors for Islam at the behest of ISIS and Koranic Script? 

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
All you're doing though, is like the other Islamophobes, is providing ammunition that the extremists can use against us in radicalising Muslim youths.


What 'ammunition'? Links to articles that are providing truthful news reports of Muslims on a mission of rape and murder in Western countries? We should censor these stories by way of appeasement and cooperation with them?

Each day of the year our print, radio, and television media have their full quota of news reporting of yet more violent mischief by Muslims.

It's not 'trolls'
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on forum boards that are keeping this issue alive ~ it's the Muslims themselves.

If Muslims stop making the news - then we'll stop talking about them.

It really is that simple.




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Reply #5 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 9:39am
 
Oh look at this, Brian!

Would it be more 'decent' of me to bury this story and not post the link here?

I shouldn't be 'stirring the pot' like this should I?

link

Exposure brings knowledge, and knowledge is essential for a successful Fight Back.

We'll let you know when you can come out from under your bed, Brian.

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Reply #6 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 10:16am
 
Herby - only when 100s of terrorists are hanging from lamp posts
in city centers - will this problem be solved.
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Reply #7 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:03am
 
Muhammad once killed 800 Jews in a single day as collective punishment. That worked out rather well for him.
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Reply #8 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Herby - only when 100s of terrorists are hanging from lamp posts
in city centers - will this problem be solved.


Grin Grin Grin


No, Bobby.

It's only when 100s of our Western politicians are hanging from lamp posts that we can then start implementing the sort of programmes that just might have a chance of eliminating this Muslim Community Problem all together.


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Reply #9 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:16am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 9:39am:
Oh look at this, Brian!

Would it be more 'decent' of me to bury this story and not post the link here?

I shouldn't be 'stirring the pot' like this should I?

link

Exposure brings knowledge, and knowledge is essential for a successful Fight Back.

We'll let you know when you can come out from under your bed, Brian.




thats an amazing link herb... lets hope brian reads it and absorbs it...this by an 18 yr old   who be the look of things was given a chance of a decent life.. by of all things  CHRISTIAN people who opened their home to a young man who claimed to be a refugee..

my heart goes out the Mr and Mrs jones...who must be in the land of despair....this is what Australia could have become  brian in his wisdom sit back and slaps people down for being afraid   nothing to fear here   its never happened    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes he forget the reason it hasnt happened is because of 24/7 diligence by just a few people    who listen and watch everything...the people of London and cities like her  are in a world of pain and dread.....all because of a few lunatics
who have no fear of handing out collective mass punishment.........I ask you brian what did the Jones people do?   or those 29 people who are burnt and will carry scars for the rest of lives do   to this young person???????????????..............

if he was a Christian would you think  he came from bad stock  or  he just a misfit...... or do you think it would have had anything to do with his Christian upbringing.. Angry
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Reply #10 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:23am
 
cods wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:16am:
thats an amazing link herb... lets hope brian reads it and absorbs it...this by an 18 yr old   who be the look of things was given a chance of a decent life.. by of all things  CHRISTIAN people who opened their home to a young man who claimed to be a refugee..

my heart goes out the Mr and Mrs jones...who must be in the land of despair....this is what Australia could have become  brian in his wisdom sit back and slaps people down for being afraid   nothing to fear here   its never happened    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes he forget the reason it hasnt happened is because of 24/7 diligence by just a few people    who listen and watch everything...the people of London and cities like her  are in a world of pain and dread.....all because of a few lunatics
who have no fear of handing out collective mass punishment.........I ask you brian what did the Jones people do?   or those 29 people who are burnt and will carry scars for the rest of lives do   to this young person???????????????..............

if he was a Christian would you think  he came from bad stock  or  he just a misfit...... or do you think it would have had anything to do with his Christian upbringing.. Angry


You're on a roll, codsey-baby ~ don't stop now.  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:36am
 
herb I draw the line at hanging though
that could be  a problem... Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Herby - only when 100s of terrorists are hanging from lamp posts
in city centers - will this problem be solved.


Grin Grin Grin


No, Bobby.

It's only when 100s of our Western politicians are hanging from lamp posts that we can then start implementing the sort of programmes that just might have a chance of eliminating this Muslim Community Problem all together.




Actually political crimes are usually punished with the guillotine -
ask Marie Antoinette:



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Reply #13 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
cods wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:36am:
herb I draw the line at hanging though
that could be  a problem... Roll Eyes


Okay!

We'll jail them for a few years then.

Happy?
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Reply #14 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
How did collective punishments work out for the Germans in WWII, Herbie?


It no doubt greatly reduced the number of mother's sons who left home to join the partisans. The knowledge that you are risking your mother and family's life by going out into the countryside to sabotage the Germans would have weighed heavily on the mind.


That was not what you originally claimed, now was it, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk, telling fibs again?

Collective Punishment fails.  It invariably creates greater resentment towards the occupiers in the minds of the occupied.   That was learnt everywhere it was used.   It hasn't worked for real well for the Israelis, nor will it work for the Burmese.


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What happens then is that the Muslim Community doubles and triples its efforts to report any suspicious characters among them.


Quote:
Evidence, Herbie.  Please prove to us that collective punishments are effective in turning people against the perpetrators?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Through commonsense and plain logic one can make certain assumptions about human behaviour.

Cause and Consequences.

If the Muslim Community is highly motivated to be the eyes and ears of Britain's Security Agencies to save their own lives, then it follows that the likelihood of potential bombers being reported to the police would increase greatly.

I am not advocating that Muslims be shot in response to these bombings. I'm only saying that if the gloves were to be taken off this would be a strategy that would no doubt prove effective.


That is not evidence, Herbie, that is supposition on your part.

In Australia, the UK, Canada, the USA, etc., the Muslim community are the greatest ally we have against Islamic Extremism.   Your efforts to stir up hatred because of your tolling falls on deaf ears for the most part.  All you're doing though, is like the other Islamophobes, is providing ammunition that the extremists can use against us in radicalising Muslim youths.

The next Terrorist incident in Australia is down to you, I think.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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There is no islamic terrorism in any country that doesn't  have a muslim 'community'.
Not correlation, causation.
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