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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35692 Gender:	Re: She's claiming 'racism' now ... Reply #90 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:12pm Do you think suggesting having a re-read before he copies and pastes it again (or at least before he copies and pastes it into Spineless Apologists) would help? I think i've tried that before to no avail though. I'm willing to give it another shot. Ever the optimist, me.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97325	Re: She's claiming 'racism' now ... Reply #91 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:27pm mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:12pm: Do you think suggesting having a re-read before he copies and pastes it again (or at least before he copies and pastes it into Spineless Apologists) would help? Not really, Mother. FD's not interested in what you say. It's what you don't say that's important.
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Reply #92 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:32pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:27pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Do you think suggesting having a re-read before he copies and pastes it again (or at least before he copies and pastes it into Spineless Apologists) would help?

Not really, Mother. FD's not interested in what you say. It's what you don't say that's important.

Well i must have really confused him by not telling him whether prawns feel pain or not.

No wonder he got so thingy.

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Reply #93 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:38pm

mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:32pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:27pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Do you think suggesting having a re-read before he copies and pastes it again (or at least before he copies and pastes it into Spineless Apologists) would help?

Not really, Mother. FD's not interested in what you say. It's what you don't say that's important.

Well i must have really confused him by not telling him whether prawns feel pain or not.

No wonder he got so thingy.

Everybody else told him that. He didn't read them.

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Reply #94 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 3:44pm

freediver wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2017 at 11:26am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2017 at 8:58am:

Thats nothing to do with what I asked FD. Have another go.

You recently described Islam as a deeply spiritual thing as a way of avoiding all the stuff that does not make sense. Now you are insisting we take Islamic feminism seriously just because it would not 'make sense' for a Muslim feminist to think of Islam as anti-feminist.

Why is it relevant whether Muslims make sense?

You recently conceded you have only read one chapter of the Quran in its entirety - and this was one of the smaller ones. There are in total 114 chapters.

Is it this 99% of the Quran that you are referring to as "the stuff that does not make sense" FD? Don't worry, I too can't make sense of stuff I can't be bothered to read either.

FD is it fair to say that not having read around 99% of the Quran, you are in a pretty laughable position to scoff at my claim about what most of the Quran is about?

And do you reckon Yasmin has read more of the Quran than you have?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #95 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 3:47pm

Frank wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2017 at 11:51am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2017 at 8:53am:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 4:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 2:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

I think she was widely panned because of the stupid things she did and said, and her hysterical over-reaction to criticism - eg fleeing the country and insisting all her critics are racist in order to avoid addressing the real issues they raised. She is a self-entitled drama queen.

She flees the country after she received death threats, FD.

Must have been that time of the month, eh?

Women - sorry, tinted women.

I think the word you are looking for is feminist, Karnal.

A tinted, Muslim feminist.

The woman part we could forgive if she didn't stick her head over the bunker or anything.

How many genuine feminists do you know who claim Islam is the most feminist religion?

Tell me FD, if you are a feminist and a muslim, would it make any sense to think that Islam wasn't the most feminist religion?

"Oh yeah, I'm totally a feminist - its just a shame my own personal religious beliefs don't reconcile with my feminist beliefs".

Does that make sense to you?

It is to live in a glaring contradiction to claim to be a feminist and to believe the Koran and Mohammed.
You can be a feminist and an apostate muslim, or a lapsed muslim.

Oh I don't know Frank - glaring contradictions in people's beliefs are pretty common actually. Just take your laughable opinion recorded in my signature.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: She's claiming 'racism' now ... Reply #96 - Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 8:18pm mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:32pm: Well i must have really confused him by not telling him whether prawns feel pain or not. Prawns feel pain, Mothra. That's why I refuse to eat them unless they've been boiled to death.
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Reply #97 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 12:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2017 at 11:26am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2017 at 8:58am:

Thats nothing to do with what I asked FD. Have another go.

You recently described Islam as a deeply spiritual thing as a way of avoiding all the stuff that does not make sense. Now you are insisting we take Islamic feminism seriously just because it would not 'make sense' for a Muslim feminist to think of Islam as anti-feminist.

Why is it relevant whether Muslims make sense?

You recently conceded you have only read one chapter of the Quran in its entirety - and this was one of the smaller ones. There are in total 114 chapters.

Is it this 99% of the Quran that you are referring to as "the stuff that does not make sense" FD? Don't worry, I too can't make sense of stuff I can't be bothered to read either.

FD is it fair to say that not having read around 99% of the Quran, you are in a pretty laughable position to scoff at my claim about what most of the Quran is about?

And do you reckon Yasmin has read more of the Quran than you have?

Is this going to be your standard response to everything now Gandalf? If you haven't read the entire Koran your opinion does not count?

How many chapters in the Koran have more verses than chapter 9?

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Reply #98 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 12:35pm

mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 11:48am:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 7:27pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

You might as well be begging Muslim women to lie to you.

mothra wrote on Aug 31^st, 2017 at 3:01am:

I, as a feminist, fully support all women in their representation of their beliefs

Of course, this doesn't apply to women who disagree with you, does it Mothra?

It most certainly does. I am fully supportive of all people to represent their beliefs, be they legal and that they hurt no-one.

My own mother is a classic example. I disagree with her on a number of things. My father also disagrees with her on certain issues. My father has a tendancy to speak over my mother., as though her opinion is somehow less valid.

Despite not agreeing with her on many things, i am active in both encouraging and defending her right to speak freely.

You do know that not all feminists agree about everything, yes? We're not a homogeneous blob.

Like Muslims or prawns.

Like whether Islam is the most feminist religion? Like whether you should let Muslims hijack feminist and anti-racist causes to promote the most backwards set of beliefs you can find?

Mothra do you also support people like Blair Cottrel and Gerald Fredrick Toben in their representation of their beliefs?

Mothra? Are you running away from this also? Are you only fully supportive of people to represent their beliefs if you agree with them?

Did you not read or not understand my answer to you?

I don't believe you answered Mothra. Feel free to direct me to it if you did. Or, you can just do your run and hide trick again.

Do you also support people like Blair Cottrel and Gerald Fredrick Toben in their representation of their beliefs?

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Reply #99 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 2:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 8:18pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 12:32pm:

Well i must have really confused him by not telling him whether prawns feel pain or not.

Prawns feel pain, Mothra.

That's why I refuse to eat them unless they've been boiled to death.

in sea water of course.. that stops the pain I believe...

I was told that by an old sea salt and I believe everything I am told..

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Reply #100 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 2:59pm

freediver wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2017 at 11:26am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2017 at 8:58am:

Thats nothing to do with what I asked FD. Have another go.

You recently described Islam as a deeply spiritual thing as a way of avoiding all the stuff that does not make sense. Now you are insisting we take Islamic feminism seriously just because it would not 'make sense' for a Muslim feminist to think of Islam as anti-feminist.

Why is it relevant whether Muslims make sense?

You recently conceded you have only read one chapter of the Quran in its entirety - and this was one of the smaller ones. There are in total 114 chapters.

Is it this 99% of the Quran that you are referring to as "the stuff that does not make sense" FD? Don't worry, I too can't make sense of stuff I can't be bothered to read either.

FD is it fair to say that not having read around 99% of the Quran, you are in a pretty laughable position to scoff at my claim about what most of the Quran is about?

And do you reckon Yasmin has read more of the Quran than you have?

Is this going to be your standard response to everything now Gandalf? If you haven't read the entire Koran your opinion does not count?

My standard response to someone idiotically claiming they know a book they haven't read is that it counts for nothing. Would you actually disagree with such a response?

Do you think someone who has actually read the Quran and claims it is predominantly about personal sprituality has a bit more credibility than someone who hasn't read it and claims its all about power and dominance and head hacking?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #101 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 3:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 2:59pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2017 at 11:26am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2017 at 8:58am:

Thats nothing to do with what I asked FD. Have another go.

You recently described Islam as a deeply spiritual thing as a way of avoiding all the stuff that does not make sense. Now you are insisting we take Islamic feminism seriously just because it would not 'make sense' for a Muslim feminist to think of Islam as anti-feminist.

Why is it relevant whether Muslims make sense?

You recently conceded you have only read one chapter of the Quran in its entirety - and this was one of the smaller ones. There are in total 114 chapters.

Is it this 99% of the Quran that you are referring to as "the stuff that does not make sense" FD? Don't worry, I too can't make sense of stuff I can't be bothered to read either.

FD is it fair to say that not having read around 99% of the Quran, you are in a pretty laughable position to scoff at my claim about what most of the Quran is about?

And do you reckon Yasmin has read more of the Quran than you have?

Is this going to be your standard response to everything now Gandalf? If you haven't read the entire Koran your opinion does not count?

My standard response to someone idiotically claiming they know a book they haven't read is that it counts for nothing. Would you actually disagree with such a response?

Do you think someone who has actually read the Quran and claims it is predominantly about personal sprituality has a bit more credibility than someone who hasn't read it and claims its all about power and dominance and head hacking?

When a Florida pastor threatened to burn that Book the Indonesian president said that could threaten world peace.

What does this verse mean?
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Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
https://quran.com/9/29

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #102 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 5:15pm

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

in sea water of course.. that stops the pain I believe...

I was told that by an old sea salt and I believe everything I am told..

I eat King Prawns by the bowl-full when they're in season, but it's a dodgy business finding the ones that haven't been grown in the Mekong river and other South East Asian sewers.

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Reply #103 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 5:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 5:15pm:

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

in sea water of course.. that stops the pain I believe...

I was told that by an old sea salt and I believe everything I am told..

I eat King Prawns by the bowl-full when they're in season, but it's a dodgy business finding the ones that haven't been grown in the Mekong river and other South East Asian sewers.

when I first came here and saw my first aussie prawn I fell in love it was in Wollongong where the local would cook them in sea water...they were delish they dont cook them like that anymore....always wash them in salt water...ho hum back to the koran and who read s it and who doesn t...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: She's claiming 'racism' now ... Reply #104 - Oct 4^th, 2017 at 5:34pm The size of some of the King Prawns and Tiger Prawns I eat are so large they have to club them like baby seals when they're netted and pulled on deck ... I'm also crazy about those little dried salted prawns the Chinese shops sell in small bags at ridiculous prices.
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