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Reply #15 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am

Actually the war is far from over. Everyday, with the retreat of ISIS, it would bring us closer to conflict with Russia. If you read it carefully, its the US backed Syrian opposition forces that took over the city. It is NOT the Syrian national force backed by Russia. The US is laying the foundation for the next phase - to destabilize Syria, and install a Syrian puppet government that is ineffective like the Iraqi and Libya right now.

ISIS is just a small player in the grand scheme of things to come.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138026 Gender:	Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR Reply #16 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:45am: Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:33am: ISIS has only 100 fighters left in Raqqa - did you count them? I think Booby got those numbers from the last official ISIS audit. KPMG did the numbers, so it's all above board.
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Reply #17 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:39am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

if you were well-informed or even had half a brain, you would know that Trump has actually changed nothing in the 5 year old war on ISIS. The military is actually operating on instructions and ROE from Obama and the rest of the Allies.

So if you want to thank anyone, thank Obama.

Like with everythign else, Trump has done NOTHING.

U nder obama isis was 'free to proceed'. The might of the US army had no effect.

Once trump was voted in, putin could get involved effectively.

Putin has been in Syria for years, Sprint. The US army are not in Syria - they have some advisors in Iraq.

The success of recent operations has come down to the Kurds.

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Reply #18 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:39am

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

Actually the war is far from over. Everyday, with the retreat of ISIS, it would bring us closer to conflict with Russia. If you read it carefully, its the US backed Syrian opposition forces that took over the city. It is NOT the Syrian national force backed by Russia. The US is laying the foundation for the next phase - to destabilize Syria, and install a Syrian puppet government that is ineffective like the Iraqi and Libya right now.

ISIS is just a small player in the grand scheme of things to come.

Good post, thanks

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Reply #19 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:41am

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

Actually the war is far from over. Everyday, with the retreat of ISIS, it would bring us closer to conflict with Russia. If you read it carefully, its the US backed Syrian opposition forces that took over the city. It is NOT the Syrian national force backed by Russia. The US is laying the foundation for the next phase - to destabilize Syria, and install a Syrian puppet government that is ineffective like the Iraqi and Libya right now.

ISIS is just a small player in the grand scheme of things to come.

That would put the US in direct military confrontation with Russia.

Do you think this is Trump's plan?

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Reply #20 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:33am:

ISIS has only 100 fighters left in Raqqa -

did you count them?

I think Bobby got those numbers from the last official ISIS audit.

KPMG did the numbers, so it's all above board.

Greggy,
it was on the radio -
this is big news - rejoice at Trump's great victory.

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Reply #21 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:49am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:33am:

ISIS has only 100 fighters left in Raqqa -

did you count them?

I think Bobby got those numbers from the last official ISIS audit.

KPMG did the numbers, so it's all above board.

Greggy,
it was on the radio -

Booby,

Elvis was on the radio this morning.

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Reply #22 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 12:07pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

Actually the war is far from over. Everyday, with the retreat of ISIS, it would bring us closer to conflict with Russia. If you read it carefully, its the US backed Syrian opposition forces that took over the city. It is NOT the Syrian national force backed by Russia. The US is laying the foundation for the next phase - to destabilize Syria, and install a Syrian puppet government that is ineffective like the Iraqi and Libya right now.

ISIS is just a small player in the grand scheme of things to come.

That would put the US in direct military confrontation with Russia.

Do you think this is Trump's plan?

I am not sure if this is particularly Trump's plan. It is however consistent with US long term strategy of contain and squeeze dating back to the days of JFK and cuban missile crisis - and it has bipartisan support in USA. Hillary Clinton proposed a no fly zone over Syria (similar to the one proposed for Libya) that would have bought the west into direct military confrontation. Trump disagreed, and at times even praised Putin, whether or not, there is dirt there, its still under investigation. But after that, the US did the exact opposite. It bombed a Syrian airport (abit, it warned the Russian forces who stationed there beforehand), and now this. This also quietly puts us closer to direct confrontation with Russia.

Elsewhere, Trump is trying to take down the Iran Nuclear deal. The ultimate aim is also Russia. Now, the current Iranian government is actually quite a moderate - pro west - in comparison to the previous Ahmadinejad - so it showed that Iranian people WANTS to have closer ties with the West / Europe. However, with Trump's recent action, it would soon turn this tide, and very likely a more hard line government will take its place come the next election. This sets up for theatre two.

Theatre three is the all important North Korea. It is just sitting duck for one error to be made by any side, and the rest is history. North Korea of course is about containing China.

The same with other minor theatres like Tibet, Taiwan, and IndoChina conflict.

All this, we have not even touched Africa....

I just cant fight the feeling that international terrorism is just a sort of smoke screen, to distract us as all of those pieces are moving into place. The timings between them are quiet elegant, and appear to be pre planned rather than reactionary. Terrorism is a problem, but, like I have said time and time again. ISIS even having issues holding onto their own territory, so its actually more of a regional issue. Russia, and China on the other hand, is very different.

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Reply #24 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

if you were well-informed or even had half a brain, you would know that Trump has actually changed nothing in the 5 year old war on ISIS. The military is actually operating on instructions and ROE from Obama and the rest of the Allies.

So if you want to thank anyone, thank Obama.

Like with everythign else, Trump has done NOTHING.

U nder obama isis was 'free to proceed'. The might of the US army had no effect.

Once trump was voted in, putin could get involved effectively. Now isis are vanquished

even fake news sites dont make-up that kind of garbage.

The war has been fought effectively by the allies for 4 years and has now largely eon - thanks to the allies and obama. Trump literally DID NOTHING - as is his typical skill.

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Reply #25 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

if you were well-informed or even had half a brain, you would know that Trump has actually changed nothing in the 5 year old war on ISIS. The military is actually operating on instructions and ROE from Obama and the rest of the Allies.

So if you want to thank anyone, thank Obama.

Like with everythign else, Trump has done NOTHING.

U nder obama isis was 'free to proceed'. The might of the US army had no effect.

Once trump was voted in, putin could get involved effectively. Now isis are vanquished

even fake news sites dont make-up that kind of garbage.

The war has been fought effectively by the allies for 4 years and has now largely eon - thanks to the allies and obama. Trump literally DID NOTHING - as is his typical skill.

try again loser Longy,

Under Obama - ISIS had USA weapons.

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Reply #26 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

if you were well-informed or even had half a brain, you would know that Trump has actually changed nothing in the 5 year old war on ISIS. The military is actually operating on instructions and ROE from Obama and the rest of the Allies.

So if you want to thank anyone, thank Obama.

Like with everythign else, Trump has done NOTHING.

U nder obama isis was 'free to proceed'. The might of the US army had no effect.

Once trump was voted in, putin could get involved effectively. Now isis are vanquished

even fake news sites dont make-up that kind of garbage.

The war has been fought effectively by the allies for 4 years and has now largely eon - thanks to the allies and obama. Trump literally DID NOTHING - as is his typical skill.

try again loser Longy,

Under Obama - ISIS had USA weapons.

no. they were Martian weapons and phasers.

MORON

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Reply #27 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 4:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

Longweekend is a feminist and can't admit sin!

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Reply #28 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:50pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

Longweekend is a feminist and can't admit sin!

Shocked

Longy hates Trump and can't admit that a success has been made in this case.
It shows his continual biased and unfair appraisal of politics.

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Reply #29 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 7:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:50pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

Longweekend is a feminist and can't admit sin!

Shocked

Longy hates Trump and can't admit that a success has been made in this case.
It shows his continual biased and unfair appraisal of politics.

I hate morons - which includes you. When you can point to something trump actually did rather than SAID, then you can try and make a case. In the meantime, the success is due to Obama and the allies. Trump has literally done nothing at all.

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