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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #30 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:07pm

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

I hate morons - which includes you. When you can point to something trump actually did rather than SAID, then you can try and make a case. In the meantime, the success is due to Obama and the allies. Trump has literally done nothing at all.

Longy,
do I have to spell it out as though you were a school kid?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/trump-isis-raqqa/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump took credit for the fact

that ISIS is in retreat during an interview Tuesday,

claiming that ISIS wasn't on the run before because "you didn't have Trump as your president."
The comment comes as US-backed forces fighting ISIS in Raqqa said "major military operations" in the city have ended and that the jihadists have lost control of their self-declared capital.

American officials have not yet formally announced that the fight is won, but the development marks a significant moment for the war on ISIS.
"I totally changed rules of engagement. I totally changed our military, I totally changed the attitudes of the military and they have done a fantastic job," Trump said on "The Chris Plante Show." "ISIS is now giving up, they are giving up, there are raising their hands, they are walking off. Nobody has ever seen that before."
When Plante asked why that hadn't happened before, Trump took the bait.
"Because you didn't have Trump as your president," he said. "It was a big difference, there was a big, big difference if you look at the military now."

"I changed rules of engagement about a month ago and we are fighting now to win as opposed to fighting to stay there. We were losing, now we are winning," Trump said.

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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #31 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:24pm

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/21146

Nine months after Trump promised to defeat ISIS "quickly and effectively," the US armed forces and their Kurdish allies took Raqqa,

which until Tuesday was the capital of the the Caliphate. After scornfully minimizing ISIS as a "JV team”, Barack Obama realized his egregious misnomer, but then said that "it will take time" and "it is a long-term and complex challenge."

Joshua Keating, writing for the left-wing newspaper Slate, noted that Trump had instructed the Pentagon to loosen the rules for air strikes to the minimum required by international law by eliminating the White House surveillance procedures to protect civilians and ordering the CIA to resume targeted killing (America has just bombed in Yemen for the first time). Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a well-known Trump critic, praised this "dramatic change" over Obama's politician's management. The result is quite obvious.

In July, ISIS was expelled from Mosul and this week Raqqa was freed.

Trump did in nine months what Obama did not accomplish in three years.

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Reply #33 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:41pm

Greggy, Longy - all you halfwits - listen to the speech

Stand back
be silent be still
that's it
Look upon this moment. Savor it!
Rejoice with great gladness! Great gladness!
Remember it always, for you are joined by it.
You are One, under the stars.
Remember it well, then... this night, this great victory.
So that in the years ahead, you can say,
"I was there that night, with Arthur, the King!"
For it is the doom of men that they forget.

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Reply #34 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:19pm

Raqqa is in the hands of Baghdad. All that means is they have a pile of rubble to police. Islamic fanaticism is not diminished in the least. With this claim about Trump winning a war, Bobby, you show you have very little grasp of what is happening in the Middle East. It was never about territory, it is about religion. It is still a Muzlim dominated society, which means they have to follow the Koran, which in turn means killing infidels and apostates. Watch it transpire. Have atrocities diminished because Al Q are not as prevalent as they were in 2001? No. Same goes for ISIS.

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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #35 - Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Raqqa is in the hands of Baghdad. All that means is they have a pile of rubble to police. Islamic fanaticism is not diminished in the least. With this claim about Trump winning a war, Bobby, you show you have very little grasp of what is happening in the Middle East. It was never about territory, it is about religion. It is still a Muzlim dominated society, which means they have to follow the Koran, which in turn means killing infidels and apostates. Watch it transpire. Have atrocities diminished because Al Q are not as prevalent as they were in 2001? No. Same goes for ISIS.

You sort of have a good point.
After all there has been continuous war for over 5,000 years in the Middle East
so I suppose it's Trump winning a battle rather than the war to end all wars.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR Reply #36 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:18pm It is sad that our own little booby thinks that the proof that Trump beat ISIS himself is nothing more than Trumps own words. This from a man who claims to have invented the phrases 'fake news' and 'priming the pump'. The man lies pathologically and when not actually lying is just plain wrong.
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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #37 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

ISIS is not really a country, so you can't just capture the capital as it were and just expect them to collapse.

ISIS has only 100 fighters left in Raqqa -
the rest are hiding in Syria - they are on the run
with nowhere to go.
They are defeated and Trump can take the credit.

The only question now is - what will happen?

An attack on the flank perhaps? (ie a truck in a western country etc!!)

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR Reply #38 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:24pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 10:52am: There are no winners or losers here, leftards. The winner is war. Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #39 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 5:50pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

And the actions of Obama over the past 4 years and the efforts of the allied forces had nothing to do with it, right?

bobby... your ability to be a gullible tool is legendary.

dear Longy,
doth ye denieth that Trump made an election promise
to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth?

Now - only 9 months under his magnificent leadership
the capital of ISIS called Raqqa has fallen.
Give credit where credit is due.

Admit that Trump is a success.

Longweekend is a feminist and can't admit sin!

Shocked

Longy hates Trump and can't admit that a success has been made in this case.
It shows his continual biased and unfair appraisal of politics.

Trumps got balls. He took on the fake media and won Cheesy

He might still get handed them but atleast people respect him for taking on global fake news incorporated.

That's how he won... risky strategy but he won!

Shillery last night was funny... i sort of remember watching it!

...she murmured something Roll Eyes

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR Reply #40 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:24pm: Trump did in nine months what Obama did not accomplish in three years. Get a 13 year old kid to give birth? Reference, thanx
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Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR
Reply #41 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 1:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

It is sad that our own little bobby thinks that the proof that Trump beat ISIS himself is nothing more than Trumps own words. This from a man who claims to have invented the phrases 'fake news' and 'priming the pump'.

The man lies pathologically and when not actually lying is just plain wrong.

Longy,
you are like the chaff that the wind driveth away.

The truth hath been proven unto thee.

forgiven

namaste

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138019 Gender:	Re: TRUMP HAS WON THE WAR Reply #42 - Oct 19^th, 2017 at 1:44pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 19^th, 2017 at 12:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Oct 18^th, 2017 at 8:24pm: Trump did in nine months what Obama did not accomplish in three years. Get a 13 year old kid to give birth? Reference, thanx It was a question.
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