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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #195 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 8:16am Grendel wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: Tell me gandalf... when are you Muslims going to stop killing each other in the name of the same religion?
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #196 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:39am

freediver wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 5:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Ah yes, issue's favourite traitor narrative.

Tell me though, if muslims were killed by muslims "right here, in my country" - would mourning them be acceptable? Or is it only non-muslim victims of Islamic terrorism we're allowed to be sad about?

All Muslims are victims of Islamic terrorism. That's how Islam spread.

So ISIS terrorists are muslim - therefore they're victims.

Good show FD, will you be posting this in the spineless apologist thread, or shall I?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #197 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:49am

Frank wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 9:19pm:

Depends.

If they import their madness here and want them to buy into it on either side, then NO. If the Muslims are killed are assimilated Australians and killed for that reason, then yes.

Interesting. So since the mosque that was attacked killing 300+ worshippers was a suffi mosque (spiritual/anti-violence), you accept that these peace-loving, minding-their-own-business muslims were true victims that deserve to be mourned - yes?

If so, then I wonder why all the huffing and puffing and grandstanding when I posted it?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #198 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 1:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:39am:

freediver wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 5:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Ah yes, issue's favourite traitor narrative.

Tell me though, if muslims were killed by muslims "right here, in my country" - would mourning them be acceptable? Or is it only non-muslim victims of Islamic terrorism we're allowed to be sad about?

All Muslims are victims of Islamic terrorism. That's how Islam spread.

So ISIS terrorists are muslim - therefore they're victims.

Good show FD, will you be posting this in the spineless apologist thread, or shall I?

How many converts did Muhammad recruit before he started slaughtering innocent people and robbing traders? How many after?

Islam exploded because Muhammad used it to give people a moral licence to do evil in his name. Muslims are the primary victim of this. It's why they tend to live in squalor to this day while the rest of the world develops around them.

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Reply #199 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 2:05pm

Do you think there were any instances where Islam "exploded" because it gave the inhabitants a better deal than what they had under the previous rulers? Do you think for example conquering Jerusalem and restoring rights to Jews, including allowing them back into the city where they had previously been banished under Christian rule - is a good example of people being given "a moral licence to do evil"?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #200 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 3:41pm

It's possible. If I was given the choice between accepting Islam's wonderful taxation system or having my head chopped off, I may well have chosen to pay the tax also. Even if it was 100% of my land and 50% of the products of my labour, as was the case with some Jewish groups Muhammad particularly despised. The answers to these simple questions should shed some light on it.

How many converts did Muhammad recruit before he started slaughtering innocent people and robbing traders?

How many after?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97292	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #201 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 4:23pm freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 3:41pm: It's possible. If I was given the choice between accepting Islam's wonderful taxation system or having my head chopped off, I may well have chosen to pay the tax also. Are you sure? You wouldn't have invaded Africa and the Americas instead?
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #202 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 5:51pm

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 3:41pm:

It's possible.

OK, so do you also agree that its possible many converts to Islam were attracted to Islam because they got a better deal under Islam than what they had under previous rulers - as opposed to converting because they feared getting their head chopped off?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #203 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 5:56pm Hmmm... no answer eh. Ok Ignore the question and admit defeat... I suppose Muslims will always be killing Muslims in the name of their religion. heaven help the rest of us then eh.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #204 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 6:16pm Sorry G, I'm on the phone with ACA right now - hoping they'll give me the right answer...
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Reply #205 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 7:18pm

Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism

Why so ?

It is a mystery to me!

/sarc off

To those who are its followers,

ISLAM, is its own reward....

Proverbs 3:33
The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Proverbs 4:14
Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.
15 Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.
16 For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall.
17 For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
18 But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

Proverbs 10:20
The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Proverbs 10:24
The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.

Proverbs 10:27
The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.

Proverbs 10:32
The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable: but the mouth of the wicked speaketh frowardness.

Proverbs 11:11
By the blessing of the upright the city is exalted: but it is overthrown by the mouth of the wicked.

Proverbs 11:23
The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.

Proverbs 12:5
The thoughts of the righteous are right: but the counsels of the wicked are deceit.

Proverbs 12:6
The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood: but the mouth of the upright shall deliver them.

Proverbs 12:10
A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

Proverbs 15:8
The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Proverbs 15:9
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

Proverbs 15:26
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

Proverbs 15:28
The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.

Proverbs 18:5
It is not good to accept the person of the wicked, to overthrow the righteous in judgment.

Proverbs 21:7
The robbery of the wicked shall destroy them; because they refuse to do judgment.

Proverbs 21:12
The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.

Proverbs 24:20
For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out.

Isaiah 57:20
But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

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Blessings upon all those, who love the God of Israel.

The God of truth and righteousness.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #206 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 5:51pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 3:41pm:

It's possible.

OK, so do you also agree that its possible many converts to Islam were attracted to Islam because they got a better deal under Islam than what they had under previous rulers - as opposed to converting because they feared getting their head chopped off?

Not possible, G. We whites liberated Asia and Africa to avoid paying Moh's taxes.

Calling this raping and pillaging is just racism, as every schoolboy knows.

It's Freeeeedom.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #207 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:14pm Actually, it's the victims and their surviving families who suffer the most from Islamic terrorism.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism Reply #208 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:38pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 6:16pm: Sorry G, I'm on the phone with ACA right now - hoping they'll give me the right answer... Well if they give you an honest factual answer, I'll be expecting a big apology from you then...
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #209 - Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:46pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 9:05pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 5:51pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2018 at 3:41pm:

It's possible.

OK, so do you also agree that its possible many converts to Islam were attracted to Islam because they got a better deal under Islam than what they had under previous rulers - as opposed to converting because they feared getting their head chopped off?

Not possible, G. We whites liberated Asia and Africa to avoid paying Moh's taxes.

Calling this raping and pillaging is just racism, as every schoolboy knows.

It's Freeeeedom.

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